Stimulants are bad

by sitting on the internet we see youre clearly permitting yourself to live in a society where you are surrounded by cause of disease

 

oh thats right! this is the planet earth, you cant escape disease, only keep yourself from dying from it

anyway barely anyone on this board uses it for medical use, most people who use it for medical use dont even wanna get high, and this thread was meant to be about meth users because the threadstarter was harassed by a street hag who he thought was on some sort of stimulant and so assumed meth, and then made the unintelligent comment of making out that illegal stimulants were any worse than legal ones? how many legal stimulants does the threadstarter even know?

 

Legal Stimulants? Nicoteine-Bad, but more long term and less short term. Caffeine- harmless as cofee or soda, but caffeine pills and snorting them, and some cafeine alkaloids such as kola nut might be bad. Ephedra-A fuckin cardiac arrest in a diet pill. Guarana, Ginseng, Yerba Mate, Ginko Biloba, etc.- Slightly mood enhancing, good for men that can't get it up, eh eh. Phenaproxelamine (or however it's spelled)- Off the market, formerly used in diet aids such as Acutrim, etc. Red Bull- Basically a harmless mixture of legal stimulants for junior dorks that can't get real headies. Pseuodoephedrine- A synthetic analouge of ephedra (a naturally occuring amphetamine) found in cough suppresing medications that also contain DXM (for teenage dorks), as a decongestant, because stimulants clear the nasal passageway. Did I miss any Bill? I guess I (the poster) don't know a lot about legal stimulants!!

 

Red bull gives YOU heart palpatations? Oh, I thought u said it was best to avoid all drugs. Caffeine, Ginseng, and the rest of the crap in that crap are drugs. Advil and Tylenol are drugs. a drug is any non food substance that has any effect on the body or brain. Sounds like a hypocrite. Anyway, I wouldn't know about Red Bull-induced cardiac arythmia, cause I don't drink it. I'd rather get mellow, or eat some papers that make shadows bounce around and make bright lights shine and stuff, not something that makes me (or anyone else) angry.
And drinking a cup of cofee won't kill a person, chief.

 

Thats really true. I have experienced the same and even worse negative effects from drinking coffee and soda regularly. I cut way back on both and my overall health has improved. So far out of all the substances I have used in my life, cannabis is the only one that doesnt have adverse effects with regular use. Makes sense though since its proven non toxic, not producing neurotoxins, and doesnt alter any major functions of the body or mind like then central nervous system, dopamine and serotonin receptors

 

If your heartrate increases from a drug, then decreases to normal, it is the same effect on the body as walking or exercising. So light to moderate increases in heartrate from smoking is not going to throw the body out of balance.

 

Cocaine has many other effects on the body other than simple increases of heartrate. It also increases it in much greater magnitudes. Its a CNS stimulant. Nice job though with the sensationalism, you should go work for fox news.

 

I was trying to explain something else before this heartrate shit came up, and I must not have articulated well. But Im tired, stoned, and about to go to sleep. I'll figure it out tomorrow.

 

Being stoned can mess up my linear thinking patterns, but it doesnt affect my intellectual capacity much at all, and nothing like fatigue from working and staying up late.

 

I experienced that before as a novice, the effects can be pretty profound. Which makes you panic.

 

"When you smoke the herb, it reveals you to yourself." -Bob Marley

 

No dummy. Smoking nugs slightly increases the heart rate. Coke drastically increases it. Plus smoking weed doesn't raise blood pressure, I don't know where you read that fortune cookie? People don't understand that a slightly elevated pulse rate will not immediately cause a heart attack. If someone has a heart rate of over 100 beats/per minute, for 40 years straight, and then they are 80 years old, they might have heart problems. A simple rapid pulse isn't neccasarilly anything to worry about if you're young. ConcealedCulture is right. Excercise does raise the pulse temporarily. So does having sex, having two beers or having a cup of cofee. None of these things are deadly. All of you idiots that don't understand the functions of the human body don't understand that cocaine is bad for the heart for two reasons: 1. It anesthetizes the heart muscle, putting extra workload on the heart. (weed doesn't anesthetize the heart muscle). 2. This is the IMPORTANT PART. Cocaine (like any other stimulant but to a much larger extent than caffeine) is a VASOCONSTRICTOR. Look the word up in the fuckin dictionary if you don't beleive me. It narrows blood vessells. Opiates and deppressants are vasodilators (which is the reason why all opiates and all CNS deppressants other than alcohol slow the heart down) which mean they make blood vessells larger. A heart attack occurs when a blood clot forms and blocks a narrowed coronary artery, thus cutting off blood supply to the heart. Vasoconstricors (such as amphetamine and cocaine) narrow the blood vesells, so if a clot developed, the blood would have a more narrow passageway to travel through. MARIJUANA ISN'T A VASOCONSTICOTR (or a vasodiltor). It has little effects at all on the cardiovascular system. Cocaine will cause heart attacks, smoking pot will not. Once again a slightly fast heartbeat will not kill a person. Idiots think it will, because during a heart attack, a person's heart usually beats fast. The rapid heart rate didn't cause the heart attack in joe Blow. It was the other way around. Some cowboys are really stupid. Mabye you should take a med class in college so you could learn this stuff. Mabye you could watch the movie doctumentary "Grass" which shows how marijuana laws were passed largley a a rascist action against Mexican Americans in the southwest, or because some insane religious zealots though that stoners communicated with the devil or some bullshit. Mabye just learn the facts, and outgrow all the lies they told you in drug eductaion at school. I don't care but Cowboy is posting some seriously ignorant shiznit on this thread.

 

Then what's so bad about a slighly increased pulse?

 

I guess i don't know where you were going with that.

 

Yeah but besides all that, I was really referring to how stimulants alter your brain chemistry drastically by increasing dopamine activity, which throws it all out of balance. Also a lot of other brain activities are influenced by dopamine. Hence the crash and getting all spun out and shit. Weed just activites a more independent, less active area of brain receptors, and doesnt produce neurotoxins at that. So overall brain chemistry is not affected.

This is why people can blaze every day and live normal lives.

 

drugs are icky, I avoid them as much as I can aside from antibiotics and ibuprofen as required

 

bullshit. it just makes you dumb enough to think stupid shit is profound. me, it just made me dizzy.