Conservative minority

Discussion in 'Canada' started by Burbot, Jan 23, 2006.

  1. Burbot

    Burbot Dig my burdei

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    Be afraid be very afraid :rolleyes:

    Really, I don't know why people were so afraid of a minority. geez...At least your province didn't get swept :D

    Gosh we need some sort of proportioanl representation...:p
     
  2. IdentityCrisis

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    We DO need proportional representation.. we also need some educated Canadians. God, it's a mixture of this corporate bullshit that gives the majority less of a reason to continue with school when they can just work at mcdonald's for 13 bucks an hour. And then there's the pro-union NDP who support people working in mills who never went to school. The cons support the oil thumping Albertans who don't need to go to school since they've got oil to live off of. Canada is becoming uneducated and is become and stupid as Americans. As I posted in the other thread:

    GST cuts? Yeah.. 4 billion and replaced by 5 billion in other taxes. That's just great. "Choice in child care"? Yeah, because a hundred measely bucks a month really gives you a "choice" when daycare is at least 500 a month. Fiscal responsibility? We've never done so well fiscally and every time the Cons have been in, we've gone into debt.
     
  3. Aristartle

    Aristartle Snow Falling on Cedars Lifetime Supporter

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    I'm in favour of a Mixed-Member Proportional system, where your second vote is transferable.

    I've noticed the increased number of women elected. I'm impressed with Layton. He's got 29 seats!!!!!!!! The party has never held that many before.
     
  4. ihmurria

    ihmurria fini

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    :( bastards. Weeeell, hopefully they'll rely on the NDP to ally with them rather than libs or bloc, or at hte very least be impeeded from forcing through legislation that the majority of Canadians don't want
     
  5. Inquiring-Mind

    Inquiring-Mind Senior Member

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    It is a powerless minority so it is all good.
     
  6. Inquiring-Mind

    Inquiring-Mind Senior Member

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    Liberalism as in the ideology = wisdom
    Conservatism as in the ideology = backwardness, but with such a strong opposition they cannot do much.
     
  7. Erasmus70

    Erasmus70 Banned

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    Im slightly bummed about the Minority Government situation but its not necessarily a 'bad thing' either.
    That said....

    Three Signifigant and Excellent Things happened tonight:

    - A constantly declining voter turnout all the way down to a pathetic (embarrassing) 60% last time went UP to 64% this time and that is in the middle of Winter!
    Lets keep that going UP Canada!

    - Despite a 'Minority', the Conservatives won BIG by going Cross-National and having Representation in almost every Province across the board. HUGE Victory in Quebec today! Honestly, that is more important and the better win than taking the Majority. (although both would be nice heh)

    And Lastly:

    THE BEST IS YET TO COME!
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  8. Aristartle

    Aristartle Snow Falling on Cedars Lifetime Supporter

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    The Bloc is willing to work with the Harper. We've got two Anti-Canada parties working together now, and I am optimistic that Duceppe will curtail any evil Harper plans of doom. But I am extremely concerned when it comes to what is going to happen to a childcare program.
    Quebec already has one, and doesn't need it.

    Also, I have a sick feeling that Harper is considereing appointing the elected Conservatives that won seats in Quebec into his Cabinet.

    :S
     
  9. Burbot

    Burbot Dig my burdei

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    Bwaha, Conservatives are anti-Canada :rolleyes:

    And duh, of course he is oging to appoint cabinet ministers from the east, we all knew he was cause he needs those seats out there. You can't win an election in the west...
     
  10. IronGoth

    IronGoth Newbie

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    Because there's really no alliance of parties that can get a majority, unlike last time when the Libs and the Dippers could chum up and pass stuff.

    The moment the Fiberals find some other French Canadian crook to head them up, they'll be gunning for Harper's nipples wit da quickness. Hopefully by then he can have cut the GST by 2%, eliminated the gun registry, reformed immigration and put in the initiative and recall processes.

    The only thing good that happened yesterday is that that lying drug dealing crook is gone. As is Annie Get Your Gun. Good luck finding a real job ya mad cow HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR
     
  11. FNA

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    'People would expect the Conservative government to be less intrusive into the capital markets, and to be a party of lower taxes and more supportive of business.'

    from National Post Wed. Jan. 25 2006


    So this government is gonna let all the big godless businesses run hog-wild and do whatever the fuck they want with little regulation. Really, that's the last thing the world needs. And I really wonder if the taxes will ever change. Doubt it, be even if it does, so what? You think all your problems wiill be solved when you have an extra couple hundred dollars in your pocket? It's just money, there are more important things in Canada to worry about.
     
  12. IronGoth

    IronGoth Newbie

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    First of all, with business comes jobs. Messing with that leads to, well, Canada massively underperforming the G8 and a brain drain.

    Secondly, remember when Crime Minister Martin was bleating on about how the Yanks were responsible for the handguns coming into Canada?

    Are you aware of what happened in Blaine last night? Some guys from Cali decided to run to Canada. Two armed men, in a speeding car, trying to crash through the border.

    The Canadian Border Patrol were notified. They did what they were supposed to do, namely abandon their posts and let two known murderers armed with guns in. Cause they had no guns and no plans to be given guns and were not willing to take a bullet defending the country with a STOP/ARRET sign.

    The Conservatives pledged the Border Patrol would get training in shooting and decent guns. So next time, rather than having the Washington State Patrol and the US border patrol lead up the car and shoot the bastards dead, maybe Canada can have a stake in defending its own goddamn border.

    The Liberals plan was a $2B gun registry that didn't work. Harper will arm the guards responsible for ensuring bad people don't get in.

    WHY DIDN'T WE ELECT THESE PEOPLE SOONER?
     
  13. FNA

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    Well it's pretty obvious that business means jobs. But it doesn't make an excuse for the con. stepping back and letting the multi-national corps do whatever they want. They need to have gov. intervention to keep these guys in check, otherwise they can screw over whoever (small business and local economy) and whatever (environment) they want.

    And fuck the G8. We should be shifting away from that way of thinking. But I guess no one wants to look at the big picture of the world and the future. Shallow imidiate gratification is much better right?

    And I don't really see why there's such a big stink about the gun registry. If you have a gun for legitimate purposes, then why worry? If you don't, then you shouldn't have a gun.
     
  14. IronGoth

    IronGoth Newbie

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    You DO realise that Paul Pot owns a shipping company (which is why he's a multimillionaire) and registers his ships in the BAHAMAS to avoid intrusive and expensive Canadian laws? A recent survey revealed NDPers to be most likely to cheat on taxes?

    Listen, you have to do what you can to make business work. South Korea THROWS AWAY MORE FOOD than North Korea can grow. Communism/Socialism is the most painful path between capitalism and capitalism.

    Cause it's $2B thrown away for no valid reason whatsoever?
     
  15. Inquiring-Mind

    Inquiring-Mind Senior Member

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    The intent was justified the way they run the registry failed.
     
  16. IronGoth

    IronGoth Newbie

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    Oh, confiscating legally owned guns made sense. Whereas not deporting Jamaican thugs or arming the border patrol doesn't?

    I think you would show evidence of a working brain if you followed the Conservatives and thought about scrapping the registry and arming the border patrol. And getting rid of the Jane and Finch set.
     
  17. Inquiring-Mind

    Inquiring-Mind Senior Member

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    The purpose of the registry was to make every gun traceable and punish people who mishandle their guns. Why? Most crimes that were committed in the city of Toronto where done with stolen guns. It was also a way to differentiate between legal guns and illegal guns to make it easier for the government to trace the root of illegal guns. Was it well implemented? No, could they have done better? Yes, Did it need more thinking before it was put into practice? Yes


    I don't think any liberal is denying the registry wasn't implemented as they thought it would.

    We all make mistakes so do governments and in this election the liberal party got punished for it's mistakes.


    And the conservative way of dealing with crime is kind of silly. "You do the crime and you do the time" How about prevention? Do we wanna fill the jails up with people or should we spend that money in prevention? Just look south at how this thinking is working, do they have less crime?
     
  18. IronGoth

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    NONSENSE. It was there and in place as a precursor to a handgun ban (now we know where they are and where to confiscate them from!) and a UN-proposed worldwide gun ban, which will make the New World Order One World Government easier to implement.

    It also made no sense - the stolen guns came from the US, so they'd never even make it to the registry, and anyone with half a brain can file off a serial number.

    Of course, what would have cut down on the gun crime would have been to.... deport Jamaican thugs and tighten up the border. But then again that wouldn't satisfy the Big Brother aims of the Liberals now would it.

    Course they all were. That's why they refused to scrap it.

    I love it how gross embezzlement, lying and outright fleecing of the public purse is called "mistakes". Get this, Shawinigate was a crime. The reason why the pigs couldn't nail Screwface for it was he was their boss and he told them not to. Hopefully Chretien will soon be in handcuffs as will his drug dealing padawan Martin.

    Needless else to say, an ethics package including radically defanging the office of the PM and giving more power to the provinces is in the works. And the stake will be pounded through the heart of that Nazi frog vampire we call Turdeau.
     
  19. IdentityCrisis

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    Don't be so smug. BC is normally largely Conservative but this election, we voted the most Conservatives out since Trudeau.
     
  20. Inquiring-Mind

    Inquiring-Mind Senior Member

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    You are delusional if you think people with guns are going to stop a new world order if there is such a thing when you got the army which is controlled by the government you fear with better, bigger, faster and more efficient weapons.



    Course they all were. That's why they refused to scrap it.



    I am talking about the gun registry how is it a crime?

    What you fear the government but not the state? If you are worried about a new world order wouldn't the state having more power make it easier for the state to just turn to what you fear? If this was the case 100 years ago slavery in the southern US states would still be legal today and women would still have no rights. great idea.

    Women and blacks should thank their federal government for the freedoms and rights they enjoy today.
     
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