LOOSE CHANGE: New 9/11 documentary receives media coverage

I saw this video for myself a few nights ago. It is one of the best 9/11 videos I've seen to date that questions the official "19 hijackers" story. The movie was produced by Dylan Avery and two of his fellow Oneonta college students (Korey Rowe and Jason Bermas).

This movie contains more previously unseen (unseen since 9/11) footage than I've seen in any of the other 9/11 documentaries, and it does a particularly good job providing compelling evidence that both towers, as well as Building 7, were brought down by controlled demolition. Not fire. Anyone who watches this video and isn't convinced that our government orchestrated and carried out these horrific attacks on 3,000+ of its own citizens is in denial. In this video you will see rare news footage taken from that day, as well as testimony from both firefighters and eyewitnesses who said there were explosives in the building.

The soundtrack to this video is also great.

Here is the local FOX tv news piece regarding the video:

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/december2005/031205dylanavery.htm

Here is the trailer:

http://www.loosechange911.com/trailer.wmv

Here you can view the entire video FREE:

http://fpiarticle.blogspot.com/2005/12/911-video-loose-change.html

 

I must be in denial...sorry.

 

I just posted this minutes ago, so I know you didn't view the trailer or the news piece. Maybe if you actually took the time to watch the video, or at least the trailer or news piece, you might feel differently.

But if you truly are in denial, you at least have the courage to admit it, which is more than I can say for some people.

 

Denial of the lone gunman theory also?

 

Rat we all know what you believe, we all know the theories.

In this case you claim that “our government orchestrated and carried out these horrific attacks on 3,000+ of its own citizens”

That is your belief and that is fine.

But the question is what are people to do with the knowledge.

Who should they vote into power instead?

Should they join organisations like those demanding an independent inquiry?

What political policies do you think should be adopted that would stop such a thing as you believe happened, from happening again?

 

Yeah. The self-proclaimed middle-of-the-road objectivists troll posts on this board in less than 2 minutes. Faster than the pizza delivery guy. Guess he has to work overtime now to make up for the loss of Gilligan.

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Thanks for posting that. I just watched it, an excellent documentary. The evidence that questions the "official" accounts of 9/11 are overwhelming. It's a shame most of america gets its news from five corporations that have no interest in questioning the government.

 

So only one person so far has watched the video and has any comments?

Thanks for taking the time to watch the video, Sam. It's good to see that at least somebody cares.

 

Yet, you probably didn't even watch the video.

First of all, this isn't about what I think. It's about people understanding what really happened that day.

I have answered all your other questions numerous times.

Again, you don't understand that the voting process is rigged. People don't get into office unless they are a part of, or devoted servants to, the New World Order. Votes are meaninglesss. That is simply a fact, at least in the United States. The last two elections have proved this.

Yes, they can join organizations like the 9/11 Truth Movement. The more people help to expose what really happened on 9/11, the closer we are to breaking the illusion.

Also, "political policies" are meaningless since policy is dictated from the top down. If you want to change policy, you need to get to the root of the evil. The problem doesn't lie with our so-called leaders as much as it does the people who controlling them. This is why it is so important for people to become informed as to how the system really works.

 

loose change 2 is one of the best 9/11 docos i've ever seen. every skeptic and believer should see it.

and you call yourself an anarchist? since when does an anarchist support the system?


to all the puppets who refuse to accept the facts that prove there was a conspiracy... in order to wake up, all you need to do is get off of your complacent arses and do some RESEARCH.

 

I like balbus know where you're comeing from.. so i just posted 'i must be in denial'... anyway
i was responding too:

''Anyone who watches this video and isn't convinced that our government orchestrated and carried out these horrific attacks on 3,000+ of its own citizens is in denial.''

No i did not watch the first clip [fox news] from that war mongering news organisation that perpetuates the Bush admins lies on a daily basis.. thats sarcasm ofcourse..I realised it's content was going to be about the US goverments involvement in orcheastrating 9/11... i did not think i needed to really view it to add my comment..
Having viewd the clip and film.. it's nothing i have not heard many times before.. good look to them in the endeavours .. but i have heard speculation of the 'goverment did it' that has not moved on from day zero too many times.. Many better and more encompassing documentaries have been made..

People not knowing what the hell is going on screaming 'explosions' and that being interpreted or used as a basis for 'bombs'.. is not compelling . As has probably been said many times.. if i was hearing explosions then thats probably what i would say.. if i then recognised it may have been gas pipes or other things 'exploding' then i am pragmatic enough to think thats a likely scenario.. If i was in the same sort of mind set as yourself.. i may just hold dear for all these years that it must be bombs and it must be the goverment. The amount of people in the location at the time will provide a myriad of differing opinions on the rationale to what they heard.
If this film maker has chosen just to listen to one particular view that is not objective journalism.. and should be viewed as one side.. Not as the only side.

How many times do people have to say it was Al-quaeda and OBL..
All people who view it from your paradigm seem to say is the Bush admin were 'complicite' or OBL is on the CIA/FBI pay roll... etc etc etc .

Continue to think that 'it was blown up' as much as you like.. but don't accuse me of being in denial or anything like that..when i could just as easily say that you are as well.

I have thanks in part from what Pressed_Rat has posted since i have been here.. Thanks to other 'sceptics' in this forum and other forums i have frequented. Gee i have done more research than is probably healthy.. almost daily for quite some time.

I wonder how many people just like the look of the thrust of threads like this and agree.. with out doing any research of there own ?.. Quite a few i reckon.. given when they respond they never respond when i or others post ''research'' that proves them otherwise.. Mere biased info churned out by war mongers and the 'elite' etc etc etc . .. Anyhoo i try not to be rude about having a tag that is not really accurate.. and not being the type of person who likes insulting others.. well i do like abusing a few.. but shucks i think they like it .. never any malice though.
I have only been banned once [and that was only for two days] .

I don't really expect within these forums [given the nature of the people posting] to be taken that seriously but heck i try .

 

Matthew, you live in London, and I have been to London and many places around London and i can tell you that a good amount of people in your country as well believe in the 9/11 conspiracy, and that America is very naive in not believing that their own government would kill their own citizens, so don't think this is some american paranoia thing, many people from all over the world, probably more so out of America, believe this was a conspiracy, Just like they laugh at us for not believing JFK was a conspiracy.

 

No i live in Leicester.. it is a joke. Everybody thinks the only place in England is London [read it again ]...I admit the joke is wearing thin.

I know .. i know.....i don't deny the alternate POV... i just don't believe it.
Many think like me around the world.
Think what you like.. don't be blind if differing info does not sit well with your POV and aknowledge [i think you personaly do sometimes] if you are wrong [i do]..and don't think you have all the answers.. [again] thats what i do.
I think it is a individual paranoia and it does not matter where you come from..
I don't suppose i should admit JFK was no conspiracy imho then ?.

I have altered my opinions over the years.. nothing fresh has come too light that has made me alter my POV recently.. so i will just continue.. if you don't mind ?.

 

No...

The truth about what happened that bleak November day in Dallas is simpler, yet no less fascinating.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3226908.stm

 

Mathew says:

"People not knowing what the hell is going on screaming 'explosions' and that being interpreted or used as a basis for 'bombs'.. is not compelling"

Oh, you mean the firefighters who were in the buildings watching the explosions? Eyewitness accounts from people around fires for their occupation isn't compelling?

Oh yeah, but you didn't watch the movie, you chose not to, because this scenario doesn't fit into your mental paradigm. Here we are showing you evidence, and you decide to look away because you just don't want that to be the truth.
It sounds like a child who refuses to accept Santa Clause not being real.

This case of denial has actually become laughable; I don't care if the "conspiracy theory" is right or wrong, the fact that you won't even look at this video is just sad.

 

no offense btw

gimme a fuckin' break and watch the friggin' movie

but no offense

 

Ah yes, Gavin Esler, the deeply insightful and exhaustive investigative reporter, claims the definitive answer is completely divorced from any political contextualisation and astonishingly devoid of any treatment of the suspicious elements of the case. No scrutiny of the ridiculous "magic" bullet trajectory required by a lone oswald from a vantage that could in no way scientifically have resulted in the actual killing wound to the head, but with a mere few paragraphs of own supposition the Zapruder visual record is poignantly dismissed.

This is matthew's calibre of intellectual honesty and scrutiny. Nevermind that sharpshooting experts years ago verified the impossibility of Oswald's firing three shots with that old italian bolt action rifle let alone from the required multiple angles (suggestive of the actuality of additional grassy knoll shooters).

All this is moot, however, in relation to the wholly larger and more hole ridden pre-prepared explanation, by Matt's instinctively trustworthy "suit and tie" brigade, of 19 hijackers with the strategic wherewithall to capture 4 planes simulataneously, evade air defences in the most secure airspace in the world, perform aerial maneuvres indicative of military ace pilots (despite sworn afidavits by flight instructors that none of the alleged 'terrorist' pilots could fly so much as a single engine piper cub without an instructor present), managed to bring down not only the Twin Towers in a manner never before witnessed in the history of structural engineering without controlled demolition, but also managed to fly into the most protected building (Pentagon) in the world without any of the perimeter SAM batteries firing a single shot.

One truly wonders what Matt would require to even begin to question the mainstream media endorsed farce that was 911 and its ongoing bogus use as justification for a clearly verifiable and brazenly published ideological agenda of unilateralist warfare for the control of dwindling global energy resources and the dollar hegemony which they have for decades underpinned.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/ENG401A.html

http://middleeastinfo.org/article4398.html

Obviously matt doesnt want to comprehend the interconnectedness of economic, political and military objectives which necessitated an event as traumatic as 911 to achieve sufficient public acquiescence. Neither does it seem to bother him that the PNAC's own policy proposal (empirically being played out since 911 to the letter) called for just such a traumatic event for its realisation.

Some minds just want to stay safely on the surface of matters and pretend that those hell bent on maintaining the power of empire couldn't possibly plan such wickedness. Certainly not those who represent the rhetorical virtues of democracy and freedom (however much they have repeatedly and systematically shown themselves betrayors of those very principles).

Perhaps matt will admit that the coverstory is as flimsy as rice paper when Gavin tells him its okay to scrutinise the glaring lack of evidence ever presented by "officials" to substantiate it.

Apocalypse of Coercion: Why We Listen to What “They” Say About 9/11

 

I did watch the movie..

I realised it's content was going to be about the US goverments involvement in orcheastrating 9/11... i did not think i needed to really view it to add my comment..
Having viewed the clip and film.. it's nothing i have not heard many times before

No it is not compelling like i said it was people during the event.. not realising what was going on explaining what they saw or heard as 'explosions' .. ''it sounded like somebody detonating bombs'

yeah very compelling evidence.

if i was hearing explosions then thats probably what i would say..

All of this ''compelling evidence'' was taken by media commentaors and people witnessing the event .. not realising what actually was happening.. Did it have any testimony of those same people the next day ?..when they had had time to reflect on the situation and appreciate what had happened.. NO. Just frightened people hearing/witnessing something they had never witnessed before..expressing themselves as best they could.

If you heard somebody say ''it was like a sci fi film'' does this mean aliens bombed the towers ?? of course not.

You hear what you want and don't bother to distinguish between fact and fantasy.

Look at the evidence that came out the next day the next week..years later.. not some distressed individuals trying to make sense of what was going on during the events...

I COULD HAVE MADE A MORE COMPELLING FILM...

I DID WATCH THE FRIGGIN MOVIE.. no offence

Did YOU watch that documentary ?. Gavin was not doing any investigative reporting merely reporting on findings of others.. I have to say that link is devoid of the true nature of what was included in the documentary..Many of the elements you say WERE included.. It is a shame really.. as it was a very insightful documentary.
It does not even give the names of those involved in the making and gathering of the evidence..
All in all i guess it gives the BBC reign to continue endlessly putting out ''new' documentaries for ever and ever and ever .. now there IS a conspiracy..

I never claimed it was definitive..when you get a chance to watch... i would. Just like i am being told too [even though i did] with the 9/11 documentary.

This NEW documentary has a PENSIONER doing just that..
The multiple trajectories where explained with computer modeling .
Previously the fact the passenger seat was raised higher than the drivers seat was never factored into the original equation.. This could explain the 'magic bullitt.
The ACTUAL specifics of the car and the timing of the bullets indicated it was all perfectly possible.
People had been pouring over old and outdated information.. new technologies and equipment proved it was feasable for one person to carry out the shooting.. i could never hope to explain.. you really need to view it.

 

It's not even worth the effort of getting through to people like Matthew. He already alluded to being afraid of the truth and questioning things outside of what is constantly spoonfed to the masses via the corporate media.

 

Most of that video on the towers is from the 'coporate media' .. acceptable in certain circumstances i guess ?...
I guess all that 'testimony' is being 'spoonfed' you ?.
When did i allude to being afraid of the truth ?.

I don't really expect within these forums [given the nature of the people posting] to be taken that seriously but heck i try .