Just something i've been thinking

I was talking to a lady around 50 years old or so on new years eve, and we got into talking about how each of our generation are. We talked a bit how kids were in the 60's and 70's and i said i wonder how things and people changed so much in the decade after that and she said kids didnt carry the torch and things just ended. Now i'm thinking, my generation (i guess kids between like 15-25 or so) is the most well eduacted, pampered, probly kinda spoiled generation ever. Were told to dont do drugs, go to college, get a really good job and make lots of money, uno be perfect little american people. And were pretty much doing that. But who are the people telling us this stuff? well our parents, who for the most part are the baby boomers who grew up in the 60's and 70's doing the exact opposite of what they are now teaching us to do. Kinda makes me think it didnt end because kids didnt carry the torch, it ended because as the baby boomers got older, they changed, and most stopped being idealistic kids and turned into regular american society people and brought there kids up to be too. the only differnce is the kids didnt rebell against them, we just did what we were told, and still are.

 

I completely agree with you nouronion. I believe that there are still a few out there that are carrying the torch. I know a few people "our age" that are still the torch, but for the most part it has died, which saddens me. Damn it I feel like I should have been a teen in the sixties. Anyway this is just playing into my melancholiness, so I will stop my rant now.

 

with a little guidance kids will find their own way ............when one of my sons was younger he once told my wife that i had ruined it for him going to the dance .wife asked him how ??.he said that i had told him to use his judgement .lol....but seriously i agree on some part to what is said ..i for one would not have wanted my kids to do exactly like i did .i was too adventurous ...but alas,it rubbed off on at least one of my kids .he's a bush pilot who flies the high arctic ....oh well,one just hopes for the best .......and as far as carrying the torch for better social norms i have never stopped crusading ....i just go about it a different way .i joined a political party as a director where i am sure my voice will be heard whether they like it or not .......they haven't kicked me out of the party yet

 

I agree with Kimberly. The parents from the 60's and 70's have learned from mistakes, and they want to pass that knowledge onto their kids. I thought I knew it all when I was a teenager, but I realize know that I didn't know shit! If only I knew what I know now when I was a teenager! You gotta live and learn, though.

 

--Good idea Kimberly; but in the meantime I must say you are real pretty lady and it would be nice if kids listened to their parents but knowone ever has or will-When were young we want to find new things on our own' which is great'other wise the world would be boring and nothing new would ever be started. If all kids followed in their parents footsteps we would all act alike-just like our parents-variety is the spice of life-so-where ya dancin?-I don't usually go to strip joints anymore but hey I can make an exception!

 

yea i agree with everyone, i'm not saying theres anything wrong with how our parents raised us i think they did a great job, so far our generation is doing good. I think it's just the times that we live in that shape the way kids act even more then what our elders tell us. the last 4 years to me seem like kindof a build up to something cause it keeps getting worse and worse, what it'll be though i have no clue.

 

I told my kids not to do drugs because it's not a good thing. Drugs are NOT where it's at - get high on life.

I told my kids to get an education because I didn't want them to be stupid.

I told my kids to get a good job - with an education, hopefully they can get one that they like.

I would like for them to make enough money to not have to worry about things like - having a roof over your head, doctor bills, new shoes for their kids, groceries, etc.. You know, those little things that make life more pleasant.

You can do all these things and still work to make the world a positive place. You can volunteer in the cause of your choice, vote, raise your kids to do good things in life, etc...

And that is not a bad thing - it's just getting on with life and doing something instead of sitting around taking drugs and talking about doing something....

 

.........yea i know, i wasnt saying it was a bad thing i was just pointing out that we were raised well.

 

((hugs)) I know - I was just saying why I did what I did with my kids.

Peace!!

 

I figure now is a better time than any for my generation to grab the bull by the horns and FIX OUR FUCKED UP SOCIETY. I know plenty of kids my age (some hippies, some not) OUTRAGED at the bush admin, and outraged at the quality of our society as a whole. I'm telling you, I really believe we can change the world like our forefather/mother hippies before us. POWER IN NUMBERS MAN!

 

everybody 30 -40 years ago failed to do a thing .....and society wont be fixed but crumble to dust ....youll live through it and the task ahead is to survive and create viable alternatives to what failed ...i wish u the best of luck ...u seem quite a charming and motivated person .

 

Failed to do a thing??......well I guess you're right in a way, look at life now. We live in a machine. But at least they put the ideas out there....started to improve the environment and gave women/black rights.....among other things..

 

well yes for a few moments about the summer of 68 ...the vague possibility of some major worldwide disgust with the boordom of a consumer spectacle based on neocolonialism n war existed ...but peoples greed and fixation on their differences - identity ....as well as just selfish laziness ...fucked it up ...most of the operative ideas of the ressistance durring the 60s-70s ....came from the 1880s to the 1920s .....women blacks and everyliving thing have less rights now than then ...we live under a blanket of surveilanceand controle unparalelled .....i think you should read the anarchists .......there is a lot of stuff on line if you do searches ...whole books , like on anarchy archives ......im sory to sound more sceptic than i am ...but im sory things have come to what they are despite mine and others vain efforts to give you a better deal .....

 

We can rant and rave and discuss until we're blue in the face, bottom line, the status quo has to go, we are at a critical point in cultural evolution, we must accept the fact that we are becoming slowly conditioned and enslaved, one generation at a time, apathy prevails the majority of day to day life, people for the most part, have become archtypical materialists, we care more about the new cd coming out, the new line of fashion, the new electronic toy, and the true issues, are slowly being put out of sight, whether or not you realize it (or agree) humans are an animal, we have carnal instinct like any other animal on earth, albeit we are arguably the most intelligent/advanced, peoples ability to truly think for themselves without bias has been severely jeopardized, fact is, WE DO have the capability to live in utopian society, IT IS realistic, however the naysayers would have you not believe that, everything can be overcome, LOVE for fellowman is needed now more than ever before, people need to set aside the negative emotions, and preconditioned modes of thinking, and advance beyond the hierarchy into a more enlightened state, money perpetuates greed and therefore should be outlawed all together, we as a society (in the world) have done this to ourselves by trying to control TOO MUCH, and mostly because of GREED. All that being said, THE TIME FOR REVOLUTION IS NOW, people must rise up and take back the land, take back our lives from the corporationists and the globalists, we must do this for our children, not with violence, but with peaceful dissent and refusal to cooperate ANY LONGER. Tear down the walls of babylon.

(and ya, I know your watching me, Homeland Gestapo, but your not gonna silence me!)

 

I've been all over this hip forums place and I gotta say that if every ONE who says they're fed up and want change would actively get involved in something, there would be REAL power in numbers. Seems it's time, so what happens next?

 

I'm with you sistah, i've been doing alot to inflict change, I write, petition, protest, and do work with Bread and Puppet theatre, society is coming to a head, we need to be the change we want to inflict, i'm all about a revolution. The time is NOW.

 

The hardest part in breaking the barriers is the withdrawals from the comforts of regular life but I believe once we drop out oppurtunities for change will be present waiting for us to come together and imbrace the moment instead of living in the past.

I've been thinking about this myself lately aswell and we need to quit planning and start taking action!

 

Nobody (or at least barely anybody) is gonna drop out of anything right now. The new generation (the millenial generation) is going to college and getting good jobs, there probly gonna be most people bosses in 10 years, like it or not thats how it is. It might not be a bad thing. Were smart, and its not like were from the 1950's were the most diverse generation yet and arnt bothered by much, were probly be pretty laid back people. I think our generation could change and fix things from the inside.

 

In fact i really think if the world is gonna change for the better, it's not gonna be from people trying to re-create the 60's again, it's just not gonna happen were differnt people. It's gonna be from my generation getting into the work force and changing it. Were probly not gonna rebell by dropping out of society, we'll rebell by taking a corperate job and changing it to fit how we are, and we are differnt from the elders.

 

It may seem now, in retrospect, that the hippie movement was one vast wave that carried everyone along with it effortlessly, but there were far more disapproving straights than there were hippies at the time. It was a rebellion, and it was not an easy one. You had to go against society, and you had to make that decision to do it alone. All you young people are pining for a new rebellion movement so you can do it the easy way, with lots of people paving the way for you, but that isn't what we had in the 60's.

If you want the true hippie experience, think of something you want to do or accomplish, and then do it, just do it, with no social approval, no friends to help you, people thinking you're crazy, parents disowning you etc. After you have broken with your comfortable existance and the world you grew up in, you will probably meet others like you, but don't sit there waiting for them to come to you to help you make the break. No one did that for us, and it wouldn't have been as meaningful to us if they had.