Intel Chips on Mac Computers

Discussion in 'Computers and The Internet' started by Destro_the_punk, Jan 13, 2006.

  1. Destro_the_punk

    Destro_the_punk Member

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    Does anyone other than the mac geeks that apple computers now run on the same basic hardware as windows computers now? This may make cross platform applications easier, you MAY even be able to run a dual booting machine once the hackers and moders get into things.
     
  2. rexy

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    Yes, I heard that Intel have made a partnership-merger arrangement with Apple - and really, OSX has had a Next-Linux base-core for some time. But I've been out of the Apple loop for a while now - Apple will always be space-age-cutting edge, I guess that's why MS are happy for them to be still around and going well - great ideas to "borrow" for future MS/Windows products!
     
  3. ~piscean]-[delusions

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    definitely a good move for apple. see, apple was doing a trifecta for their chips working with Motorola and IBM. Well both Motorola and IBM are having their down times lately, so the they weren't fully investing in the kind of chip Apple wanted to take their chips to the next level. So what do you do when you're Apple? You go to the company who can afford huge R&D expenses in order to get the chip they wanted. Since the first intel chips hit Apple laptops, their stock has gone up from 65 to 85. their stock has gone from about 30's in the early part of 2005 to 85 when i looked today. look at Steve Jobs - a clear icon and hero for the digital age - cofounds apple, makes the first personal computer with a graphical user interface, gets ousted from apple, creates next software which was way ahead of it's time but the building blocks that are in apple's current mac os, then he buys george lucas's animation firm and creates pixar animation with it, known for blockbusters such as toy story, and from there you know what else, he still owns and is ceo of pixar, then in 1997, apple buys NeXT from him and he later becomes CEO once again. On that day, Michael Dell was asked what would he do if he were the CEO of Apple? He said he'd fold the company and give the shareholders their money back. Now, on Friday the 13th, Apple's net worth exceeded 72 billion compared to Dell's now 71 billion, the first time Apple has been ahead of Dell since Dell's beginnings. I bet Michael Dell is eating his words right now. And look what else Jobs has done with the iPod and the whole revolution that has begun, and now we can watch television shows on it too? I say Jobs is the man of the century, a pure genius, and also a Pisces, born on Feb 25th or 26th, I'd have to check the piscean birthdays list on my site to be sure.
     
  4. Syntax

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    Funny how a few years ago they made a study that "proved" the IBM PowerPC to be more than twice faster than Intel. And now, the very same company makes a study to "prove" the opposite.

    It does prove one thing that we knew for quite a while: all studies companies pay for are bullshit.
     
  5. White Feather

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    As someone who uses Windows, Linux and OSX, I have to wonder why anyone would want to get an Intel to run OSX. I prefer Linux by a very wide margin.

    Yeah, it'd be nice to run OSX, you say. Until you find out that your $400 video card will not be supported (present OSX implementation.) So, not only would you have to modify the mobo, perhaps putting a chip on a PCI card to allow OSX to recognise it as a genuine Mac, but you'd have to hack OSX to allow it to recognise and utilise the newer ATI and nVidia cards. Oh, wait, you may not be able to use nVidia cards... and ATI's Linux drivers are questionable. hmmm. Do you really think Apple will allow their OS to be Open Sourced?

    My Ubuntu GUI looks a lot like the Mac, but I have 4 desktops instead of one. If you do not know what that means - do you have the Desktop Icon on your Windows taskbar? When one has 6 windows open and they need to get to a "clean page," to the desk top quickly (say to get to the C: drive), you hit the Desktop Icon; all the open windows are minimised. You can't do that with OSX.

    When you close an app. in OSX it is not really closed. It is still in memory. It isn't even in a pre-fetched cached state, the actual app. is mapped. So you have to close the window, go to the file menu and exit the app.

    Yeah, OSX 10.4 looks neat with all the widgets. But so what? Do I really need to see what the weather is all the time? Fire Fox gives me that through an extension. The one thing I wish Windows had is the ability to pull down a calendar like Linux. You don't get that with OSX.

    Ever try to install a HOST file in OSX? Good luck.

    You know how you can log into your Administrator account and can get to all the files of all the other users? It's not quite so easy under OSX, you have to change permissions on directories and files just to access them. In Linux it is a little easier.

    Now, if Apple was doing something with DRM, like not supporting it, then I'd see a valid reason to consider an OS change. But since they are not, it basically gives you a much faster OSX, the same as switching from Windows to Linux. The Windows problem is that people just don't have enough memory in their systems, so OSX (and Linux) can get by (just bearly) with 256MB.

    People are cheap, they don't want to pay for programmes. So if you think that you'll be able to install all sorts of sghare ware on the Mac - think again. For the most part you'll only not have to pay for an anti-virus and firewall programme(s). Gamers will probably stay away. But you'll probably end up installing Fire Fox and Open Office on that Mac. GIMP will take a lot longer.

    So, yeah, Mac on Intel will be a screamer. It'll probably scream as fast as running Word on a 3.6 GHz P4. And just as useless.
     
  6. ~piscean]-[delusions

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  7. Death

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    so basically, you could chose between the graphics of mac or the functionality of a pc on one machine? wow. scary
     
  8. IronGoth

    IronGoth Newbie

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    Darwin is not Linux.

    Basically, Motorola was screwing them, and they went with Intel. Very Good News for intel, and for us, it means those who have to work in multiple env's can boot PC or Mac, depending.

    It also means Microsoft had better get its act in gear.
     

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