What is Reality?

Discussion in 'Existentialism' started by moka9x9, Jan 4, 2006.

  1. moka9x9

    moka9x9 Member

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    We exist for unknowen reasons, but we function the way we do, because of the way that our bodys and minds were created. If you look at history, we've only just begun, and there are so many possible planes of existance, it isnt even funny.

    Our eyes SEE everything, but our brain only process's so much, that leaves a large percentage of true reality that we dont even notice, see, therefore have to deal with. The picture that im trying to patch together here is one of the theory that all things exist, (or all things that exist) are around us 24/7, but if we choose to ignore it, therefore not see, smell, taste, or believe. It does not exist (to us), and does not effect us.

    This leaves many options open, see we can look into the past, think, and understand how it happend, so logicaly we should beable to see into the future with the same clairity as we can the past. Therefore being able to change, and mold our futures.

    This also makes it very possible that the abuse of certain substances can be more or less revealing more of this true reality that we normaly dont allow ourselves to see. This is of course not with stimulants or narcotics, but with hallucingens and dissacositives like DMT, Salvia D, LSD-25, AMT, Mushrooms, and such. Another reasonable theory is that the drugs DO make you delusional, and therefore makes it increasing challenging to learn about the truth about reality.

    Maybe my thoery, and my research are the words of a insane man, but I believe in what I've experinced, what I know.
     
  2. moka9x9

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    Levitation
    Witchcraft
    Magic
    Magick (elemental)
    Teleportation
    Flying
    Enternal Life (Resserection??)
    Demons
    Ghosts
    Zombies?
    Sasquatch

    These are things people claim to beable to do, or have seen before, but maybe if they believe enough, it therefore becomes true, and they allow their minds to see that part of reality.

    Explainable through this theory?
     
  3. NaturaAtraSpiritus

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    Ive always wondered about something similar to this... about color...

    When we look at grass it appears green, but not because the grass is green but because of the light it reflects is on that spectrum... so in absence of light everything is black. So is black the real absence of color?
     
  4. moka9x9

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    We as a race are still evolving, maybe our brains just cant handle EVERYTHING at once right now, allowing us to only see a fraction of whats really happening.
     
  5. moka9x9

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    Yes, in the absence of light everything APEARS to be black, thats the way our eyes see it. Yet to an owl, or a nocturnal creature that can see in the dark, it apears as a shaded colour, meaning it cannot be black, for if it were, they wouldnt beable to see it. Althought bats do not count, they dont see with eyes.

    If you believe it is black, whats stoping it from being black to you?

    Nothing :)
     
  6. moka9x9

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    (Obviously the wiggers, just believe they are black enough, for in their reality, they are black, damn them crackers)
     
  7. koopa

    koopa De Kuil Krue Hipster

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    You know nothing, I know nothing. All of our observations and all of the logic we deduce from them are BIASED. Biased because they are observed through different eyes. Subjectivity creates bias. The senses are known deceivers. Socrates said the smartest man is the man who realizes he knows nothing. Believe all you want..........but don't claim to know!
     
  8. ShamanHut

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    Interesting thread. I think you might be interested in reading up on quantum physics and string theory and how it relates to the notion that observation and perception create reality. A good book is the Holographic Universe by Michael Talbot. It could sure explain why some people see things and others don't. Or maybe we are just crazy. Who knows?
     
  9. Zion

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    You should check out the Nothingness thread. Its speaks of Nature, which is not as confused as man.
     
  10. mamaboogie

    mamaboogie anarchist

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    reality is simply that which agrees with my perceptions of what exists
    ~William James (paraphrased, because I don't wanna dig through and find the original quote)
     
  11. prismatism

    prismatism loves you

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    i heard that the darker it is, the more colorblind you become. so one time i was stoned and outside in the "pitch black". somehow i realized i could see everything like i could in daylight, but the color was switched off. and then i remembered how your mind sees what you believe is possible to see. so i thought, "you know, black and white and gray are no fun" and colored everything in with my eyes. i was on drugs but it still proves my point a little bit.

    if you're sober and you truly believe the grass is orange, it will be, until you think it isn't. like sometimes, i'll be laying down outside and blink one eye, and then the other. and i'll think "one eye sees more yellow, and one eye sees more blue". like slightly tinted sunglasses. and if i keep going back and forth, it will get stronger and stronger until it drives me crazy and i sit up. and when i look at the snow, i can see splotches of yellow. i don't mean dog piss. i mean i can put them wherever i want to with my eyes. colors are mind blowing. you can warp them so easily. and remember... everything you see is just different shades of colors to make "3D".

    you guys ever play around on optical illusion websites? you go through life thinking you at least know what you're SEEING, but you can be so easily fooled.
     
  12. Ballad f Dwight Fry

    Ballad f Dwight Fry Banned

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    The real reality is kids this day and in he feature wont enjoy the freedom the 1960s or 1970s had and maybe a little of the early 1980s. and as much fun as computers can be "games, chats, forums" in the hands of police dept and goverment the little freedom you had well be totally gone. with a flick of a mouse.
     
  13. inbloom

    inbloom as the crow flies...

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    Wow, thanks for everything you shared in that post. I never knew that much about the different levels of consciousness before, though I experience it everday.

    I tend to find myself getting pretty confused in all this stuff, when I get right wrapped up in it. All I know for sure, is that I believe, definetly, that we DO create our own realitys with our minds. What we believe, is what is real. We are in charge of our own realities, and they can be as extravagent or as plain as we like.
     
  14. themnax

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    reality is what you can stub your toe on without having to know or believe it is there in order to do so. it is also that existence is not limited to pain. or even pain and pleasure togather.

    what we think we know about it on the other hand, does indeed begin and end inside our own perceiving.

    =^^=
    .../\...
     
  15. mati

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    our psyches are products of a lifetime of repressions and manifestations. we delude our selves and create a dualistic "me-it" view of reality. acid helps break down those distinctions. we need to understand that we are "it".
     
  16. BlackBillBlake

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    Someone, I forget who, said: 'reality is that which continues to exist when we stop believing in it'.
     
  17. Art Delfo

    Art Delfo It is dark

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    The senses do not "lie" to us. Its more like they put blinders on us. There must be so much more to the world that our senses can not take in.....
     
  18. yonosoymedico

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    a short answer would be "ishness"
     
  19. mynameisjake07

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    I dont have much to say on this thread but I just wanted to say it is quite interesting and has opened my mind.
     
  20. BannedInDC

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    Perception. That is reality. Our perception. And our thoughts, and that's all there is, we cants prove a goddamn thing about anything else, cause all we have is our perception and thoughts.
     

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