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really hope that wasn't aimed at my comments

I'd love to see you move up to the reserve I was talkin about and see how long you sing that tune. I wasn't talking about a lack of consumer niceities, I was talking about a complete lack of basic infustructure. I'm talking about people with an average life expectency of 50, who are forced onto a small pieces of land which can't possibly sustain them by natural or sanitary means. People who lack even the most basic access to medical care in thier community and have to send there children away so they can recieve an education. People who have undergone cultural genocide and are now without the collective knowledge which once allowed them to live a simpler way of life. I'm talking about people who are living in a silent and forgotten apartied.

and if I'm a progressivist yuppy then what the fuck are you? correct me if I'm wrong but you're sitting behind a computor, non?

how dare you make such brash idealistic assumptions, I've lived and worked amongst 3rd world peoples, they reciece no higher piece of mind for lacking what they lack, because they're forced to live in the modern wolrd we dragged them into, the reality of thier world doesn't match up with your rhetoric

 

ok, well sorry for the rant then

I'm a tad touchy on the subject

 

There are $200,000 trailers? Crap, I know people in double-wides who payed 1/4th of that.

 

Booshnoogs is a potty-mouth.


I think she is talking about a real mobile home....like for travel. Not a trailer as in "trailer trash"...

 

Oh, I thought those were called "RV's"

 

Dudes, my parents lived in a trailer for quite a long time before I was born. We moved to the "big house" when I was a kid. We were pretty poor, like Salvation Army christmas poor. It wasn't that big of a deal though.
We live on a reserve. It isn't as bad a some of them. we have a few job opportunites here, and it isn't in a really remote aread so we have access to nearby cities.
There are a lot of poor people here, and I belive it has a lot to do with happened when the Europeans came and stole kids to try to make them not Indian anymore.
A lot of people here are breaking free of the abuse and depression and are learning how to be parents and leaders of the community despite the incredible hardships that my people have suffered through the years.
I feel we have it kind of well off. There are reserves I have been to in the states where people don't have proper sanitization, or electricity or running water. I guess not having electricity isn't so bad, if that's what you are always used to. BUT ISTN'T THIS THE YEAR 2006 in NORTH AMERICA???
There's this one reserve that has recently been in the news here in Canada that was under a boil water advisory for TWO YEARS before anything was done for them. THIS IS CANADA!! The government has a responsibility for it's people and these people couldn't even drink the water for two years!!
It is frustrating when people don't realize that there are very poor people in very very horrible living conditions in their own country, but, really, it's not their fault that they are clueless. Unless they actually search out the information on these places, how are they going to find out? It's also frustrating when people know more about the living situations in Iraq than the living situations of the people living in their own countries.

 

Just think about how much better prepared they will be when armageddon comes.

In all seriousness, I find it bizarre that, considering the rediculous disregard for human rights and the brutality that the Native Americans were shown in the US, nobody really talks about it. People are quick to bring up slavery every 15 seconds, but events like the Trail of Tears are treated like minor footnotes that aren't worth mentioning.

 

open mindedness is respecting everyone's way of life. These boys want to get out of poverty. One of their dads is a horrible alchoholic and the other one shot himself after shooting his stripper girlfriend. They're a product of their enviorment, they don't choose poverty it chose them. I respect people's minimalist life styles but in return I expct people to respect my like for nice things.

 

Oh I'm definitley not blind to poverty or charity. In fact I do a lot to try to end it in my own community. In california we have more goverment programs so no one really lives in extreme poverty like that. We have goverment funded houses and most of our shelters are apartment style living.

 

oh for sure. In fact I have a friend who's staying in a 1 million dollar trialer on a bluff over looking the ocean right now. They are usually around 2,000 or 3,000 square feet here too and come all decked with stainless stell apliances and skylights.

 

no I'm talking about like manufactured housing...I think that's the new nice term??? anwho they are quite popular here. The houses in my neighborhood tend to go for around 700,000 (my mom bought 15 years ago when they were much lower) but a mobile home a mile away in an even better neighborhood would be 300,000 so you get a lot of 'yuppies' living in mobile or manufactured housing because you have to be bill gates to afford a normal home. or in my friends case his mobile home on the bluff was his second home. a lot of people have mobile homes for vacation houses.

 

See, I think we have a situation here where my slang is different from your slang. In the south, manufactured homes are not the same as trailers either. Hence my confusion. Down here, if you and a bunch of friends don't have to take the wheels off, then it's not a trailer. Our trailers are the things that you seemed to be describing in the documentary you watched. You haul one to your site, take the wheels off and set it up on cinderblocks, and you have a home. (until the next tornado blows through anyway)

 

jeeez.... 200,000 would buy a fairly nice house in this neighbourhood, and that's Canadian dollars

 

it's funny how different words can mean different things in different parts of the country.

 

yeah, the most expensive house in my subdivision was about 150K three years ago when new construction was still going on, and that's about 3200 square feet including the basement.

 

200,000 would build about 15 houses on my reserve.

 

You're just showing off now.

 

but can they keep the houses? that's the question...

 

you know, it's not like california doesn't have dirtbag communities, it's just that lynsey hasn't been there...

 

So Compton isn't an upper-middle class community?