Ecstacy Preperation Techniques

Anyone know of any good things to take to help out your E trip.

 

Well when I used to do it.. I'd parachute it...

you crush it up... and then put it in the middle of a tiny piece of toilet paper wrap it up then drink it down with O.J... that's the fastest way it will get in you except for snorting and that was never my thing...

Vitamin C is supposed to help alot with the roll...

 

Preloading:

Dr. Tom Oth writes (in the MDMA Clearinghouse Forum):

1. 200-500mg 5-hydroxytryptophan (5-HTP)

2. 500-1000mg tyrosine

3. 500-1500mg DLPA

4. 2 grams glutamine

5. 1 gram of vitamin C

Take 1 hour before rolling with some grapefruit juice. The sugar will spike your insulin and help the aminos cross the blood brain barrier. You will be amazed.

1-3 are amino acids, precursors of serotonin, dopamine & noradrenaline. 4 is another amino acid - it's like glucose for the brain.

5 is required for neurotransmitter production and is a good antioxidant.

5-HTP is the most important supplement so don't be tempted to skip it. If you don't want to neck all that lot then skip the Tyrosine & DLPA, although they do have a noticeable effect in most people. I would take it about an hour ahead of time and the juice does make a difference.

The basic idea is that MDMA will deplete stores of the neurotransmitters in your brain. The MDMA experience is largely caused by your neurons firing rapidly and releasing Serotonin & Dopamine. Supplementing your diet with the precursors to these neurotransmitters will ensure that you get the maximum out of the MDMA. The supplements are not drugs themselves, they are nutrients.

Serotonin = empathy, contentment, bliss, love, head rushes

Dopamine = energy, euphoria, body rushes ((the 'speedy' effect)

5-HTP replaces Serotonin. Tyrosine & DLPA replace Dopamine. DLPA also has other functions but I'm not clear on them and they're not too important in this context. These aminos will circulate in the bloodstream and some will cross the Blood-Brain Barrier and be synthesised into the appropriate neurotransmitter.

Take one hour before dropping your pill. Any fruit juice will do by the way. I usually take Cola anyway for the additional caffeine. You should not eat for 3-4 hours before you drop. If you get hungry eat foods containing no protein as proteins will break down into amino acids and reduce the effect of the pre-load. You should get a longer & stronger roll and not feel so fucked afterwards.

Additional information contributed by Kallisti -Malaclypse the Youngst KSC (Mal-3) :

Magnesium cuts down on jaw clenching. B6 is required for the conversion of 5-HTP into 5HT so taking some Vitamin B6 might help. 5-HTP should be taken after, maybe with an SSRI (prozac, Zolaf, etc) to cut down on the axon trimming and serotonin depletion that occurs afterwards and creates tolerance and "Post-E Depression".

http://www.brainmachines.com/mdma.html

 

damn blissful thinking, I wish I knew all that info when I used to do it.. well there's always a chance I will again so thanx...

 

What about difficulty urinating. What do you do about that? I seem to spend a lot of time on the toilet trying to pee........I know I need to but can't even feel when my bladder is full..........Any help on this?

 

You have fake X if you are having urination problems. Speed will do that to you

 

I've never had a problem peeing while on X...

that's really weird that you do....

 

your crazy, lol. ecstacy makes you have difficulty urinating, it happens to me everytime and trust me my ecstacy is not fake.

 

How do you know. The only pills that ever did that to any folks i know were really something like aderol.

 

Well jesus, it can still be x, might just have other shit in it

 

speed helps me urinate. i dunno about the e. i think i was fine with urinating when on it

 

the pills i get are MDA, im not complaining about pissing its just annoying sometimes

 

I assume you meant MDMA

 

chemically:

MDMA = 3,4-methylenedoixymethamphetamine
MDA = 3,4 methlylenedioxyamphetamin


Chemically, MDMA is related to both the amphetamines and mescaline and especially to the potent stimulant known as MDA.
MDA is similar to MDMA, but its an empathogen-entheogen rather than an empathogen-entactogen. It's generally not considered anywhere near as useful for therapy as MDMA, although some researchers have has some success with it. Nuerochemically, MDA and MDMA are quite different. Their active isomers are switched, and MDA seems to effect the 5-HT2 receptor where MDMA is inactive.

my conclusion? MDA produces longer, harder, and more hallaucigenic effects. and thats by my own experience.

 

local hippy, don't look now, but your ignorance is showing.

MDA is an hallucinagen. MDMA is X.

 

i can agree on that to an extent, everyone knows MDA produces more hallucigenic effects but to say that thats NOT ecstacy whatsoever is bullshit, its still a form, just having different chemicals (or differing in 1 chemical).

 

Hey Blissful Thinking!

Thanks for the tidbit about magnesium. That helped a lot!
I realize you only copied it from somewhere else, but it kept me from having to research it! So, thanks for that!

 

um yeah i get that way off opiates alot......basically the jist of it is ur kidneys r working over time on any drug......makes it harder to pee....
just concentrate and run some water...... haha

 

LOL i used to do my fair share of speed.. and i never had a problem with urinating.. i have also done my fair share of X, and I usually have problems urinating.. What does that tell ya

 

MDA is not X. Not at all! X is MDMA only. Pills are often adulterated with lots of other drugs, but real X is pure MDMA. MDA and MDMA do not "have different chemicals" They are different chemicals that differ in the elemental composition and arrangement.

Here is a direct anology to what you described:

Ephidrine and methamphetamine only differ by one OH group, but are you claiming that actifed is the same as crank?

If you are going to play with chemicals, you should at least understand some basic chemistry!

jim (a chemist)