peta

You obviously missed the point, the act itself of eating a vegetable/fruit is much more probable than a cat/dog eating from a tin can wihtout the aid of a human - the entire point was that eating from a tin can is unnatural period, so if the contents of the can is meat-based or plant-based shouldn't matter in terms of being nautral.

and malnutrition? if you fed your pet nothing but lettuce and carrots but no one is that stupid, but there are a few vegan pet foods that meet nutritional requirements, there are plenty of examples of dogs and cats being vegan for many years and having no problems caused by nutrition. as long as the food is supplemented properly it doesn't matter, even cats eating meat-based diets are still getting highly synthesized vitaimns, even taurine in meat-based cat food is highly synthesized, so i don't see the problem where it comes from

i never claimed to have any type of degree, nor did i say i was an expert or anything, but either way you can just do your research and make a decision based on it, but if you want, check out these sites:
http://www.vegepet.com/
http://www.vnv.org.au/Articles/Dogs&Cats.htm
http://www.vegetariandogs.com/

~Dan

 

DAHAHAHAHAHA Mommy Kills Animals!!! Yeah, we go buy bunnies at the petstore (only when we can't get them free from the shelter) and butcher them in the kitchen. A quick stab in the gut and they bleed to death in an hour or so...

OK Dan, all yanking your johnson aside, if you really think about it, the most natural thing for a cat or dog to do is to hunt their own food; that is to say MEAT. But since we care about the environment we don't allow this. If there are prepared vegan pet foods out there, and they provide the proper nutrition, great. When I was a vegan, such foods were not readily available and when they were they were cost prohibitive. This cost is set by the manufacturer, marked up by the retailer, and for what I would pay for one meal for a giant breed dog I could feed myself and two children for two days. This is corporate Amerika preying on the vegan consumer, plain and simple. Fuck that. I would rather feed my dog rendered and dried animal protein supplemented with corn, dried in a bag, than support victimization of my ideals.

I don't currently have a dog, but we are shopping rescues for a puppy. When we get one, it will eat dry dog food, containing animal protein, which is as close as we'll come to the raw meat that dogs in the wild would eat.

But I'll offer him/her an apple wedge dipped in tahini or a hunk of frozen banana once in a while. Because I know it will make you (and him/her) happy.

 

Holy Shit Dirk Pitt,
Is that add a real PETA add? And do they hand it to Children?!!
I'm a vegetarion, but geezzee thats bad.

 

i don't think peta advocates veganism for cats and dogs, cuz they know theyd get a bunch of shit for it. they do sell vegetarian dog treats though, and a vegetarian dog treat definatley isnt gonna kill or hurt a dog, probably make him healthier. dogs make good vegans actually, the oldest one alive is...

cats are different though, and much trickier to turn vegan. buut, that doesnt mean you cant feed them vegan food. its all about reducing suffering, in the animals from the factory farms, and with the animals whom you share your life with. i personally feed my cat organic chicken dried food mixed in with vegan dried food, and my mom bakes him organic free range chicken for real meat sometimes. we also feed him canned vegan food, and organic canned chicken, and just rotate it from time to time. a day without meat isnt gonna kill him, and its always mixed in his dry food. he also really likes spinach, soy cream, pasta, and a bunch of other vegan foods i eat, and im usually happy to share with them. and i bet he eats much more balanced and better than most other cats who eat the "food" made up of chicken feathers and the other crap they put into commercial pet food..

 

Yes It's Real, It's Like A 'Comic' They Hand Out To Kids, The Easiest Targets.

You Can View It Here:http://www.consumerfreedom.com/downloads/reference/docs/040726_mommykills.pdf

...Pretty Sick Stuff...
These People Are Cleary Skrewd Up In The Head. They Will Harm The Minds Of Todays Youth By "Showing Them The Truth" Yet Eating Meat Is Bad Because They Hurt And Abuse The Animals?!? Children's Minds Are So Impressionable And Delicate ...It Just Makes Me Sick.. If Someone Handed That Out To Me In Sixth Grade I Would Have Flipped!

Like I Previously Stated, I'm All For Animal Rights, But Peta Goes About It In A Horrible And Inmature Way.

 

hey,
that is true that vegan pet food is mad expensive, i doubt i'll be able to afford it if i get a dog in the next year, and i agree that it would be the natural thing for an animal to hunt down their food and all - cats can still do that and if i had a cat i'd let them hunt, but most dogs are a little far too domesticated to do that so there's not much of a choice....
but that's great that yo u're shoppin for a puppy, good luck findin the right one!
~Dan

 

Wow, thats ridiculous.
Can you imagine the way a kid would look at their mom after reading that?
Thanks for the link though, I knew Peta was a little extreme but I didn't know they went that far.
Holy Shit.

 

No Problem =) I Can't Fathem What It Would Be Like For A Child go Through That, Honestly Beliveing That Their Parents Are "Evil" "Murderers" Who They Should Be Afraid Of... I'm Trying To Find More Real Info About Peta, I'll Keep you Guys Posted

 

Hehe ...My Friend Got A Bumper Sticker That Sais "PETA~ People Eating Tastey Animals" Ahahaha...

 

I don't want to start a fight, but my aunt and uncle had a cat that lived to 20 and only ate broccolli, spinach among other things.

 

I don't know. I support PETA. I don't have money so I mainly just change myself individually. I'm vegan and I am for animal rights. I try to help what I can. I just hope I can help make somewhat of a difference. I have found out anything bad, personally; I'm not saying there can absolutely be nothing, I just haven't found any proof on my own. So I have nothing against them. I mainly help the Humane Society, the local one of course.

 

Cats are natural hunters. They will find and kill their own meat if they are not getting the nutrition they need.

 

I am glad you were not offended! PETA, should do their homework! A few years back some PETA members decided the would Liberate a mink farm in either Washington or Oregon, well in the middle of winter they snuck in and set them free. Unknown to PETA, minks are highly territorial, and started to fight each other, the ones that survived the fight froze to death because they were unaccustomed to the weather! Its sad to here how they died like that, but I laugh when I think how stupid the PETA group was!
This happened around 1996, I still have the newspaper clipping put up somewhere. Most all the newspapers carried this story!

 

but this cat didn't. she would love asparagas!

 

first, what you are referring to is an Animal Liberation Front action - second, the purpose is more to put the fur farmers out of business and let the minks fend for themselves even if it means fighting each other, starving, etc. - otherwise they would have been left in the cages until they were anally electrocuted and skinned in which the farmers would have profited and continued - mink released = less money to buy more... economic sabotage was the goal and it was achieved...

 

Very true, ALF was responsible for that debacle. Of course, PETA supports ALF both monetarily and by offering legal counsel. It's a matter of public record, and if that hilarious tool Penn Gilette can find it anyone can.

As for whether the mink were better off being electrocuted or torn to pieces, I'd vote for a nice, fairly painless electrocution. Because I thought the idea behind PETA, ALF and Earth First was that the welfare of the animals and the earth was FIRST, and above all else, sacred.

Of course, I'm only a former activist, Dan is a member of the current crop. So tell us, Dan. Which comes first? The lives of the animals or stopping the flow of $$ to profit from their pain? Economic Sabotage? Sounds like price control.

 

im completley for animal rights and activism, for ending fur farms, factory farms, and anything that keeps fucking with the fellow spirits on earth and hold us all back collectively... and i live with this dream everyday in my life as a vegan... but im not sure i agree with all that mink fighting business...i believe every action should stem from compassion from your heart, where it will usually truly do the best...hurting things should not be apart of our agenda unless we find it absolutley necessary and called for, or we think it will bring about the best good for our intention...where in this case it obviously didnt, and it hasnt. AL and peta are now considered terrorist organizations by the FBI, and many people think negative things when they think of these groups when they totally shouldnt.

i mean, i understand AL and peta folks, and their hardcore methods and crys for attention towards these very accuratley percieved vitally important issues, and i admit i do laugh when i hear about them blowing up folks SUVS...but im not sure thats the right thing to do or the right way to approach the whole thing, and its more counterproductive really... you gotta keep your head throughout it all. dont fight guns with guns you know, be truly considerate and try find truly effective methods of helping this world and animals in every way you can, and thats where youll find your truly doing the most good. put your good where it does the most

 

I'm a firm believer in "People Eating Tasty Animals"

 

peta is a crap org...they do more harm than good..

 

they have good goals and some good literature, but they are a little too radical for my tast...I do like to look at their website and have a link to it on mine.