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Discussion in 'Christianity' started by Archemetis, Dec 31, 2005.

  1. Archemetis

    Archemetis Senior Member

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    why do christians only worship the masculine aspect of "god"???
    why no goddess? is femanine energy not as sacred?
     
  2. Burbot

    Burbot Dig my burdei

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    probobly has somethign to do with the old Jewish texts, the first century writers of the new testament and then the 3 century councils deciding things. Women weren't important to them, they had to discuss whether or not women had a soul at one point, if i am not mistaken. They also blamed women for the fall in Eden.

    Also, in archaic times, God wasn't "energy", God was a corpreal body in the heavens, refered to as Father, so logically to them it would be a man
     
  3. Archemetis

    Archemetis Senior Member

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    but i assume if there were a father (god), there must be a mother as well
     
  4. heron

    heron Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    Because they worship a male god, and dont buy into the fluffy wiccan concept of mushing everything together.

    In the old hebrew ways, there were goddesses, as well as more gods, and there was a father god and his wife, El Shidai and Ashera, but it was Yahweh, the angry shcovanistic widowed god that prevaled and became their sole deity.
     
  5. koopa

    koopa De Kuil Krue Hipster

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    its because Christian Dogma was written by massagonistic (sp?) Men silly!!!!
     
  6. TrippinBTM

    TrippinBTM Ramblin' Man

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    The Catholics have the Virgin Mary, who isn't a goddess but is pretty darn close, in practice if not in dogma.

    But as a whole, Christianity has lost the feminine aspect. This is very clear in the logic driven, literalist perception of the religion. There are of course Christian mystics but mysticism is a more "feminine" undertaking in that it's not about words, arguments, or appeals to one's intellect, but a matter of the heart. But this is far from the stressed aspects of this religion. It is male through and through.

    Of course, one must realize that God isn't a man, in reality. He's called the father and has the male pronouns "he" and "his" but I think most people realize that God is beyond male/female, and embodies both masculine and feminine aspects.
     
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    God the father has given us a Holy Spirit. That holy spirit, I believe is refered to as a "her" or her charictoristics of wisdom is referred to as a "her" as well.
     
  8. Jatom

    Jatom Member

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    I think the correct understanding of God is that He (<--yeah I know) is neither male nor female. That is a distinction that we in our human nature are limited to. At anyrate, although God is called a "He" He is also spoken of in feminine terminology too (just read the book of Job). Also if you look at old Jewish Wisdom literature, you'll see that Wisdom (of which Jesus is the embodment of) is spoken of as a female. But ultimlately, I think that to fight over the gender of God is to miss the point.
     
  9. Erasmus70

    Erasmus70 Banned

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    Seriously, you need to 'UP' your level of spiritual understanding far above almost childlike suppositions like this.
    Do you HONESTLY think that the Judeo-Christian God is an actual 'Male' Creature and there is some stupid worship of masculinity and that its 'not fair' because we dont have a female Goddess or some thing.
    Come on!

    Even Sunday Schoolers understand 'at a start' that God transcends any sort of 'Gender' and he does not have an actual penis or testosterone supply and all this dumbassery.

    'Is feminine energy not as sacred?"
    No.
    Christians hate women and therefore we dont consider femininity sacred.
    What do you want to hear?

    Look, God chose the 'masculine' form of the word and presents 'Him'self to us in the way He communicates Himself.
    Big Deal.
    God chose to Incarnate Himself through a chosen Woman and Jesus exhibited all the traits both 'masculine' and 'feminine'.
    Further to that - God chose to reveal Himself again through 'The third Person' of His Trinity which is the Holy Spirit, often understood as a 'feminine' presentation.
    Now these are all just OUR ways of seeing or understanding something far far far more sophisticated than a 'Dude' or a 'Lady'.
    Seriously.
     
  10. Kris?

    Kris? Senior Member

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    well if god didn't have a wee wee how did marry get preg-o??? JUST KIDDING PEOPLE *hides before he gets stoned*
     
  11. daisymae

    daisymae Senior Member

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    Because women are EEEEEEEEE-vil.....:D
     
  12. TrippinBTM

    TrippinBTM Ramblin' Man

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    I know in Chinese, they don't have male and female pronouns, so when they talk about the Tao it's neuter, as it should be, as God would be. It may just be a function of our language as well, of course, it also depends on ancient Hebrew culture (religion always reflects culture). So I agree with Jatom and Erasmus that it's clear god is obviously not male.

    Still, the male ASPECTS are much more focused on. This stuff about justice and punishment, heirarchies, power, strength. Those are "male" traits. The Hebrew God was a sky god, and a war god, both of which are "male" attributes (female gods tend to be earth goddesses). Also, our western religion focuses on logic, intellect, thought, materialism, literalism. The female, mystical, emotional, experiential tones are greatly downplayed (but, admittedly, not absent).
     
  13. Archemetis

    Archemetis Senior Member

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    not at all, i dont believe in the judeo-christian god.....but from what iv always been told, they believe god is a man in the sky and always refer to him as the father....i was more so curious as to how those believers justify that in their minds

    not all your fellow christians would agree, and i was more so asking this question to those that dont.


    no need to get all riled up
     
  14. thedude21

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    The tradition of a masculin God, ie. Father, and Son is aminly rooted in tradition. It is not for us to assert a skin color to God, just as it is not for us to assert gender, strictly speaking in the Old Testement. However it was a male dominated sosciety, thierfore as the foremost head of sosciety God would be male.

    Secondly for Christ to be concieved of the Virgin Mary, It would be necessary for God to be father. (Nice Kris?) Christ, also as a leader in a male dominated sosciety would be male, (also to fulfil Old Testement prophesies). As far as women in Christianity, as a Catholic I look up to mary as a great example; in fact the greatest human role model in my faith. Questions?
     
  15. heron

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    In all technicallity, Yahweh is androgenous/hermaphroditic, because of the mergance iwth other male and female deitys, becoming both sexes, and neither one at the same time.
     
  16. MollyBloom

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    Yea. I tried to adopt the whole feminine aspect in the character of Wisdom in Proverbs and Ecclesiastes...(sophia from Greek means wisdom.) (and in the Apocrypha, Wisdom is mentioned like a person in the book called "the Wisdom of Solomon.")

    There are parts in Proverbs where it is written that wisdom existed from the beginning...rings a bell, doesn't it? Kind of like Jesus, the Word, who existed from the beginning in the gospel of John?


    Anyway, your religious beliefs can contain as much feminine elements as you wish to include. There are lots of women mentioned in the gospel of Luke. That's a great place to start I guess.
     

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