Rebellion vs. Dissent

Discussion in 'Hippies' started by rayne_lyric, Dec 27, 2005.

  1. rayne_lyric

    rayne_lyric Member

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    It seems that a lot of people associate the 1960's with nothing but rebellion, but to me, ths seems inaccurate. To me, rebellion is the mindset of "Authority said it. Regardless of if it is right or wrong, I am rebelling against it!" Whereas dissent seems to be "Authority said it, and it was wrong. Let's fix it!" Dissent seems to be moreso seeking the truth and doing what one beleives is right, rather than just mindlessly rebelling against authority. Anyway, I just thought I would share it with you and see if anyone else had any insight on the subject...
     
  2. teh-horace

    teh-horace for your pleasure

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    Dissent is Patriotic

    'tis a bumperstick a friend of mine has
    and it's completely true
    how else did we become a nation?
    exactly
    then let us all disagree or your taking away our true american way
    =)
     
  3. rayne_lyric

    rayne_lyric Member

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    Exactly! I have heard that before too, the slogan I mean... But you are right! If we weren''t dissentful, we would still be living in the corrupted 1950's!
     
  4. teh-horace

    teh-horace for your pleasure

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    or under English colonization
     
  5. OnlyOne

    OnlyOne Banned

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    Duh, duu yoh smell duh sent?
     
  6. stinkfoot

    stinkfoot truth

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    Yeah, 'tis the unmistakable odor of hookahed on phonics. You should take a hit.
     
  7. rayne_lyric

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    Hmm, didn't even think that far back, awesome point! But even further back, the reason people left Europe was because of religious freedom, and were dissented about haveing none. So we wouldn't have even started the colonies!
     
  8. teh-horace

    teh-horace for your pleasure

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    well i was just stating that that is why "dissent is patriotic"
    patriotic in the sense of american pride or glory
    patriotic, also, in the positive sense
    that we are founded upon the ideals of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness
    dissent is patriotic
    it's one of our foudations
    therefore, the right to protest or petition is very important
    disagreement is what started this country
    we have the right to disagree
    rebellion seems to have a negative connotation
    sort of like a disruption in society


    ...

    i think i spaced out... sorry
     
  9. rayne_lyric

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    Also a good point... I also highly agree with you that rebellion does have a negative connotation... Dissent is viewed as less negative... But then again, I veiw rebellion as just senseless, anti-authority attitude, without knowing WHY the authority is bad! I am not really an anarchist so I don't beleive that ALL authority is bad (I deffinately didn't mean that anarchist are in what I view as rebellious! I think that most anarchists are dissentful, and have their own valid reasons), just about 99% of it... But I am not rebelling, I am just dissentful. Murder is illegal (with the exception of murdering people during war and other forms of legalized murder), I agree, it should be. I am not going to be rebellious and murder someone just because the government said not to... I know, that is an extreme, but I think it puts my point across...
     
  10. communistkalashnokov

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    Rebellion is what you call dissent generally, why would people rebel if they thought authority was doing right?

    You just seem to want to live in your own little utopian commune but taht aint happenin' bro.
     
  11. teh-horace

    teh-horace for your pleasure

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    hmm
    there's two words you don't see put together very often
    or for that matter
    there's two words that shouldn't go together at all
    IMO

    which is completely off topic, but still
     
  12. rayne_lyric

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    A lot of people get it into their heads that rebelling for the sake of rebelling is cool... I am not sure why, but no one in their right minds would think that shoplifting is right... I mean, you are stealing something (I am not talking about taking food because you and your family are starving or anything, just someone sees something, wants it, and shoplifts it). That would be a form of rebelling. Knowing that something says something is wrong, so you do the opposite, not because you think it is right, just because you want to do it. Most of the time the only problem people who are rebellious see with whatever it is they are rebelling against is that they are telling them to do something that they don't want to do... And often times not even that...

    I don't understand the second part of what you said about the commune and all that (although I do want to try communal living, it seems like it would be pretty awesome!), but I take it that it was supposed to be an insult or a shot, so I hope you find whatever it is that has made you so ressentful and solve the problem, then you can be a much happier person.
     
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