I got a sack of 30x salvia (a half gram from the headshop) and we took it to my house to use in a regular pipe, with a regular bic lighter. I sat down, took my intensely large hit, and coughed all of it out about 20 seconds later. From there on end, I was scared shitless. Everytime I do it, I feel like I am being spun around in a gyroscope and nothing is stopping me. Everything multiplies and drowns me. The only time I had a really nice trip (nice meaning it went against salvia's signature "scare-you-shitless" hallucinations) was the first time I tried it. I smoked a fatty bowl from my bong with a bic, and I was transported to a lush, green field of grass on a bright and sunny day. I was on a production line, I was a can of pepsi. They were shipping us out to Afghanistan, which I found out near the end of the trip, and that scared the life out of me. Overall, I'd say salvia is a waste of money and time. And no, I'm not even going to TRY using a jet lighter if I get such intense experiences off a bic. NOTE : I've only ever tried 30x, it's all that is available here.
You're shit's too strong or you're smoking too much of the 30x. I got a big ass bag of standard salvia - not multiplied - and when I take three good hits out of my bowl, the fucking trees bend sideways. Its good shit, and its never wigged me out. Once I make it back in the house (I hate a smoky house), I'm mellow for about 30 min as I come down. However, Salvia has different effects on different people. Personally, I cant wait to try some stronger 10x or 30x shit. Good Luck............
I am tellin you folks that the flame thrower in the throat gig goes away if there is just a bit of moisture in the mix. You do not have to suffer. Most of the shit that you buy is WAY TOO DRY.
Were you talking to me? if so, yea "ready". thats some powerful extract and people who aren't "ready" as in their minds are not capable of handling such a powerful trip, should not subject themselves to it because thats when shit talking comes about it. Thats why so many people around where i live hate it. They say it's too intense, thats because there fucking stupid and get 20X there first time. 20x is some crazy shit and people who aren't ready for that fucking weirdness it brings, shouldn't be doing it, plain and simple. Start with a lower extract and get used to it, then work your way up.
seancourt, yes I was "ready" is not a good concept to wrap this in. sure work your way up to what is suitable. we do not exactly get ready for more than is suitable. one pinch or 2, 5x or 20x, one should find what is suitable. there is no competition, and one does not become ready for more as such; somedays one can enjoy more, on others one can't but one can find what is suitable for the various changing "configurations" of body and psyche. it is not like we are tiny and will grow big and then consume more. so in that way I find "ready" misleading.
Quick question about the X factor. The head shop in town here only carries 20x in stock currently. I've been researching and preparing for a salv trip for a long time now. 20x is strong from what I've gathered, but couldn't I just smoke a smaller quantity to reduce scary effects? Kind of like drinking a bottle of beer isn't bad but drinking a bottle of whisky is potent, so why not just take a shot of whisky instead of the whole bottle lol. PS Does bodyweight weigh in any factors in it's effects, like alcohol is? I'm just curious since I'm 6 foot 5in 310lbs. My first thought was that body size won't affect it since it's a mind drug.