oooh thats weird...

Discussion in 'The Whiners' started by lovelightlisa, Dec 27, 2005.

  1. lovelightlisa

    lovelightlisa Senior Member

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    you know those people who jump in the water, all is fine,
    and then theres the ones that go like: oooh cold cold cold!!!
    well they dont feel the water any colder then the other person,
    just the other person isn't thinking ooh cold cold cold!!!!
    if you just accept the cold, it doesn't feel all that cold.

    with fire its different though.
    i have no explanation other than that i openend up and felt the energy going out through my head, and the theory above
    for why i didn't burn my feet

    i guess thats the mystic part of it.

    it felt like walking on popcorn, didn't hurt at all,
    and i just did it, i was really calm and just you know, walked.
     
  2. teh-horace

    teh-horace for your pleasure

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  3. lovelightlisa

    lovelightlisa Senior Member

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  4. ihmurria

    ihmurria fini

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    changed religion?

    yes and no. In the midst of. A slow revelation I guess.

    does it count as changing though? from atheism to agnosticism to christian.... some say that atheist and agnosticism (belief in something, but is that something every truly explainable/definable?) don't really count as faith systems or religion or stuff.
     
  5. lovelightlisa

    lovelightlisa Senior Member

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    yeah that's pullin' a cat stevens too :D
     
  6. teh-horace

    teh-horace for your pleasure

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    but can't the lack of a religion be a religion too?
    i mean, religion is a personal choice
    and if one chooses to be atheist or agnostic...
    i mean, i know that atheism is really a RELIGION religion
    like, you don't practice anything
    but when filling out some kinda form that asks religion, you put atheist right?
    lol, i think that's how i should define things from now
    if it can be filled out on some kind of application
    =P
     
  7. ihmurria

    ihmurria fini

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    That's what I say

    but when I've told people I was agnostic in the back, they said that wasn't a real religion, more on par with supporting a political party than a true faith system

    sucky people of course.

    I firmly believe they are both valid faith systems, especially if you educate yourself about them (ie learn about other faiths, read the bible etc to refute people who try and convert you when you don't wanna be, etc)

    I dunno, my dad is a practicing atheist. He reads about other religions, their faith systems and their literature. He educates himself about it. Doesn't try to convince others of it until they try to convert him (jehovah's witnesses fear his house now)
     
  8. lovelightlisa

    lovelightlisa Senior Member

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    jehovah's witnesses fear something?! WOW!!!
     
  9. teh-horace

    teh-horace for your pleasure

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    exactly
    if you have faith in the fact that you strongly believe there is no god
    wouldn't that make it a religion? i mean, duh!
    lol
    and that's awesome
    i'm glad to hear about your dad
    i don't really think atheists should be atheists until they know about other religions
     
  10. ihmurria

    ihmurria fini

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    what's super cool is that he's never tried to convince me of it, always said I could believe whatever I wanted as long as I didn't try and change him into my way of thinking when it comes to faith/religion/etc. probably the most open minded atheist I've run across, at least in terms of dealing with other religions.

    I get to see him today too, which is gonna be super nice!
     
  11. teh-horace

    teh-horace for your pleasure

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    that's a awesome
    that's exactly how i am
    i'm just agnostic
    close enough right?
    lol
     
  12. ihmurria

    ihmurria fini

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    mais oui

    I was agnostic for years. Maybe still am. Not sure. Bible reading and trying to figure myself out. Personal growth... good but it's so fucking tiresome sometimes, neverending and perpetually confusing.
     
  13. Green

    Green Iconoclastic

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    I'm agnostic and my subconscious pursues satanism.
     
  14. teh-horace

    teh-horace for your pleasure

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    could just be me, but something tells me that that's how it's suppose to be
     
  15. El Hijo de Puta

    El Hijo de Puta Banned

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    Your friends are total id.... .
     
  16. kjhippielove88

    kjhippielove88 color + rhyme

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    i torn between not caring about religion and islam. my dad is a sunni muslim born in saudi arabia and really strict about religion. i just dont give a shit though :D man its complicated
     
  17. lovelightlisa

    lovelightlisa Senior Member

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    Oh yeah I know *sigh*
     
  18. Bocks

    Bocks Senior Member

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    Methinks 'lisa's On the Road to Find Out.

    Good luck. I tried to convert to something once, then worried about what Supreme Being would think, and realised that if I believed in a supreme being, I was in no state to convert.
     
  19. lovelightlisa

    lovelightlisa Senior Member

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    i've been living in a sufi community for a while.
    i know that this is my way. at least sufi-shamanism.
    just still doubting the whole converting part.


    (it's my fear of authority and anything that looks a bit like it.)
     
  20. Bocks

    Bocks Senior Member

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    Just make sure your plan doesn't backfire. I decided to create a religion after I couldn't convert...sort of a mixture of the good points of other religions, with the supreme being and the peace and love, and such, but my plan backfired, and now I'm the only dedicated follower of Zhulphism. I'm sort of stuck to it, haha.
     
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