Creatine Stacking information?

Wow, seems like months of research on the web brings me extremely useless information. All i want to know is how to use creatine? No web site provided me with what even seems to be acurate information at all. I want to know (as asomeone who never used creatine before) how to use it? How should it be stacked? people are telling me 10 grams a day people are telling me 2 grams a day people are telling me 5 grams a day, people are telling me u need to take it for a week befor u start ur training. Seems like i should just go ahead and stick my face in this tub of creatuing and start munching on 10 grams per day. What should i do im lossed and am just about ready to give this research up. I weigh 170 Lbs, i Never used Creatine, How do i start off using it?

 

I'm real hesitant to give anything even remotely resembling medical advise on the web these days (call me paranoid) so all I'm going to say is read the instructions on the label.


I did and I gained 11lbs in something like 6 weeks.

 

Damn 11 lbs in so little time sounds sooo nice!!! Naykid, can u explain to me how you took it. I will be highly appriciative.

 

Like I said I just followed the instructions on the label. every container I've ever bought said more or less the same thing.


I should probably mention that the 11lbs in 6 weeks was part of a "rebound";

a rebound is what happens when you start working out again after taking a longterm break (due to an accident, sickness, or whatever) and regain some of the weight ( in my case all of it plus 4 or 5lbs) that you lost along the way.

Part of it's due to what's called "muscle memory", ie, if you're 170lbs, and you take a break and drop down to say 155, you'll be able to get back up to 170 alot quicker than someone who's 155 who just started training because you're body's programed, in a sense, to being 170lbs (if that makes any sense).

 

Ok nice dude! I used to work out before but never did creatine monohydrate training. Right now im 170 my wieght is peak. But when i take this dude...im going to do some EXTREMELY hardcore lifting. EAT MASSIVE WEIGH AND MASSIVE CREATINE MONOHYDRATE. YUMMM

 

What are your goals?

With creatine, you wanna drink water. That weight gain is actually water gain. If you don't drink the H2O yr kidneys are gonna have big time problems.

Why weigh an extra 10lb in water? Just lift heavy.

a tsp a day is fine to replenish yr ATP stores. Eating carbs just after the workout to replenish glycogen is far more useful

 

My goals are to safely conduct creatine monohydrate and Wiegh work out sessions. So this is what im going to do so far, tell me if it sounds reasonable.

0. (3 Hours befor workout) Eat some salad and a ham sandwitch.
1. 1 heaping spoon (5g) of Creatine monohydrate mixed in 1 PT of H20, 20 minutes prior to workout.
2. 1 heaping dish of noodles and another bottle of h20 (1 PT) after workout
3. Weigh shake before bed

 

I don't know if going over the reccomended amount is going to help you any. I'm not an expert but I'm guessing that with creatine, like any other suplement, your body will probably excrete any excess it can't use.

Also, like Irongoth said, you might be taking a chance of screwing up your kidneys.

there's got to be a bunch of info on the net about all this. I think the more research you do the better off you'll be.

 

Pygot

I'll ask this again.

What are your goals?

Bodybuilding? Powerlifting? Weightlifting? Weight training? Yoga? Martial Arts?

 

Body Building.

 

Why are you using creatine to bulk up when creatine is the source of ATP (adeninetryphosphotase) which converts blood-sugar (glucose) to energy? Stacking creatine helps endurance athletes. I use creatine for my bicycle riding, as it allows me to go a bit harder a bit longer. My ride time hasn't improved since I started using it, but I hill climb much stronger. I take about 1/8th of the daily dosage (two teaspoons instead of two tablespoons) because I reckon the makers want you to piss as much down the drain as you can so they get richer quicker by selling more. There are plenty of bulk-up formula's on the market, and most of them are proteins. Creatine in protein drink causes cramps big time, so if you use creatine, use an effevescent creatine.

 

also, you probably want to take a casein based protein shake before bed, not whey. Casein is a slow releasing protein, whereas whey is a fast releasing protein.

 

your body uses three different kinds of fuel for three different purposes; ATP for short bursts of power during intense exertion, carbs for sustained activity (20 mins or less) and fat for everything else.

the reason creatine (ATP precurser) helps you put on mass is because it allows you to work harder ie, push more weight, do more reps, recover faster--which means your workouts will be more intense.

Intensity of your workout is the most important factor in making gains in strength or mass.

 

RE: the reason creatine (ATP precurser) helps you put on mass is because it allows you to work harder ie, push more weight, do more reps, recover faster--which means your workouts will be more intense.

Wrong.

Creatine monohydrate sucks fluid into the muscles. That's also what superslow training does. Rather than build more fibers or densen em up, the modern idea is to suck as much sarcoplasm into the muscle as you can. That's why modern BBers have muscles which scrunch up to nearly nothing when they flex, and jiggle when they walk.

Body builders gave up long ago the idea of building a strong shapely body. The BBers of old used to try to excel at the snatch and clean and jerk, and at half time in the shows, they'd go out and tear packs of cards, phone books, bend spikes and lift things.

Nowadays they're three quarters dead on the podium from fluid loss, blood thickeners and steroid abuse. Notwithstanding the fact that thanks to the use of machines and steroids rather than barbells and hard work most of em get pancaked by halfway respectable weights. Remember Fux who couldn't even stand shouldering 500lb? Heck, I've done a full squat with 520.

Ronnie Coleman is the exception, but then again he started out in PL.

Arnold BTW showed up the same size and weight for Terminator III as he did for I and II. During I his top bench was close to 400-500lb. During III - not even 300.

God bless water gain supplements and superslow. Jesus.

 

wow Irongoth you are really prejudiced against body builders.


Listen Pygot, if you want to get the real scoop on all this read up on creatine in some of the scientific journals--Harvard Medical Newsletter, John Hopskins, etc.

Otherwise you'll just be going on locker room rumer or propaganda from people trying to sell you something.

when I was working out ( I haven't been able to for almost 2 years because I injured my back and my arm in an accident) I have to admit I was going for vanity more than anything else but I still managed to to get within 1 lb of pressing twice my body weight in the bench.

 

RE: wow Irongoth you are really prejudiced against body builders.

Not really.... I mean, it's a trip in and of itself. It ain't mine, and I find it's strayed FAR from what it used to be.

RE: Listen Pygot, if you want to get the real scoop on all this read up on creatine in some of the scientific journals--Harvard Medical Newsletter, John Hopskins, etc.

Problem is, the scientific journals don't use the stuff for what the "street" wants to use it for. A lot of these guys "lookin to get jacked, bro!" tend to follow whatever cutting edge empirical evidence they can find.

Mind you these are folks who would eat dog turds if they thought it'd give em an extra 1" on their guns.

 

RE: when I was working out ( I haven't been able to for almost 2 years because I injured my back and my arm in an accident) I have to admit I was going for vanity more than anything else but I still managed to to get within 1 lb of pressing twice my body weight in the bench.

Paused, on the chest? Arse on the bench?

If this is the case, you might wanna consider powerlifting.

 

Nope. I was in a contest with 5 other guys at the gym (3 of them were powerlifters).

Believe me with all of our pride (and $300) on the line nobody was going to let anybody get away with anything.

Not the first time I've heard that.

 

??!??? Naykid Ape, you seem to contradict. Arse on the bench, paused on the chest is standard PL rules.

You say nobody was "letting anyone get away with anything" as well.

Which is it?

 

Just saying it was all according to hoyle.

Put it this way, if I'd done anything they could have called me on they would have.

Beats me what the rules are. I just know I was using the same form I used when I worked out. seems that was good enough.