Forced Kissing

And I second.

 

maybe we were brought up right

 

i would probobly kick you in the balls if you did that to me and we didn't have a long term relationship going. I'm not big on kissing all the time I have to be in the mood for it so if somone forced it on me it would make me even less in the mood for it.

 

join the club
~peace~

 

if you force women, you're basicly less to me than what I scraped off my boot this morning... What about all the women that don't like it this way?

Are you ready to go to jail for this?

I'll just tell you this, a forcefull kiss can be just as bad as an actual rape... You can scare a poor lass to death, by being such an inconsidderate asshole... And I can't say what I'd do to you if you did it to a girl I knew, or while I was watching... But it wouldn't be pretty

 

Hmmm. not so sure as to the context of the question...do I sometimes like my partner to be agressive. Yes.

If some random guy I just met wanted to grab me like that and test me then. No. You would find yourself with my teeth biting off your tongue then I would shove my fist down your throat and rip out your uvula. Like it rough huh.

 

yeah, aggressive sex canbe fun...

but it was the random guy thing that was the context here...

 

Thanks for the replies everyone.

As I read the responses I noticed an association between the vehemence of opposition to my post and the quantity of posts per user at this site, speaking in aggregate terms. Certainly not drawing causality here, or even correlation, just an observation. Perhaps the ones who opposed my post are too busy reading ABOUT love/sex than actually engaging in it with real people.

The most organized post was IronGoths. Thanks bro, duly noted. I like your sequence of deduction. Please feel free to expose any other oversights I might have.

Nevertheless...

I understand that most respondents are either in late teens or early twenties to late twenties. As such, it does not surprise me that opposition swept across the board in grand, cinematic display for, this is wholly congruent with the Neo-Victorian dogma with which we have been conditioned for years. I mean, what 17-22 year old person knows what she/he wants to do for a simple career leave aside what makes them aroused on a deep primordial level?

The point is women will respond sexually to someone they may actively DESPISE. Sexual attraction and liking the person can be exclusive.

 

If you have to ASK a girl if you can kiss her, you don't have great game... Just go with the flow(I love to say that) and if she has a nice time and looks like she's into you, go for the kiss.... That's what I do. Voilla! Adrians how-to-kiss guide.

 

dude, you're a joke

Really, this analytical shit is tripe, we're talking about rape, period, there are no mind games or lines of reasoning which justify your sick desire. Your elequence and intellegent manner of defending yourself still don't account for one fundimental reality, rape is rape is rape is rape. You don't read minds, you may be well imersed in body language but in the end your taking a serious risk of fucking up some girls head by making an ultimeatly subjective assumption. I don't care what gets your primordal loins a-rockin' it's rape! take your anti neo-victorian dogma speal and shove it up your ass for all I care.

And as if you can deduce my sexual behaviour, experience and preference based on my target age and frequency of posting. Brother you don't have the first clue as to who I am, and what I hold to be my moral compass when it comes to my sexuality. Personally I think that if you can have such decisive faith in that grossly flawed analysis than god help the next pretty looking girl who even so much as crosses eyes with you in a bar, because you'll contort it and twist it and make it mean something in your head, that's what perverts like you do. You want to play head games, there ya go mate.

 

Completely agreed.


Youre obviously intelligent, original poster. No denying it. But a part of me's wondering how much you FEEL, with all this thinking going on. Do you ever do something we call empathise? Do you ever imagine what this would feel like if YOU were in the ladys position of having someone considerably physically stronger than yourself use force against you for his own twisted form of satisfaction?

You say objection to this comes from being in the 17-22 age group. I say objection to this comes from being a human being with feelings and a healthy conscience. If what youre suggesting is healthy, how do explain the majority of people, who desire sexual experiences which are an equal sharing of feeling? Mutual pleasure. Good safe connection to another human being on this planet. Love....THAT is what we should be actively seeking. And this magic is experienced by people of ALL age groups.

Fantasising about power issues in sex from time to time? Fine. Going out and using physical force against another human being? An illness.

 

Real, real thin ice...


Oh, what age group am I? *curious*

 

First, Nepenthean, I don't think your ageist comment was called for. It has nothing to do with age, but with what is known as "common sense". While I, as a rational anarchist, disagree with the way society has excessive control over our lives, I DO believe we can still have "common sense". Anyone who understands this concept of NOT intentionally affecting the lives of others negatively, regardless of age, will find your views on approaching women in a forceful manner to be very questionable.

Second, as human beings, we have developed the ability to have great control over our primal urges. You don't just go up to a random girl and start forcing kisses on her just because you find her to be desirable. She might become severely upset by the experience because she was unable to choose, and might even develop a serious hangup towards the otherwise pleasant things in life. We are also compassionate beings. We may jokingly say "I want to just grab her and claim her as mine" or whatever, but we also have respect for whomever we are attracted to. We would never do anything to intentionally dishonour the people whom we find to be desirable and attractive. Use of force is a territory in which ONLY two people who mutually consent have the privilege of enjoying. Even then, precautions must be used to avoid potential physical/emotional damage. Failure to do so means you've dishonoured the ones deserving of admiration and utmost respect.

As I said above, and on my earlier post(showing agreement to what ihmurria said), I believe advances such as forced kissing should ONLY be acceptable between an already intimately involved couple, PROVIDED THAT either party trusts the other not to cause any harm and know when to stop. Otherwise, as yovo and many others have stated above, it would basically be no different from rape.

 

Thanks again for taking the time to respond as ya'll felt impelled. You did not have to; you could have blithely dismissed my words and meandered through other forums....but, you did not, so I appreciate your willingness.

That said...

I did not mean for anything I offered to appear ageist or discriminatory based on age. If you are convinced I in fact did, I encourage you to probe those thoughts within your own mind; for thoughts do not leave their source, mind.

Parenthetically, as I am heavily under the influence of sundry chemicals, I ask for your patience inasmuch as I cannot even see straight at this point.....hahahaa. Going to leave now before this turns out to be one long bombast...

 

I still wonder if you ever empathise.

 

I disagree. Women rule men who are slaves to their sexuality, not men who are disinclined to use force. Men aren't whipped just because they don't whip women. The relationship may not necessarily be 50/50 still.

If a man doesn't try to force himself on a woman, then he is LESS LIKELY to despair if she attempts to control him through the method of sex depriviation. Meaning less of his life is ruled by the woman.

 

Oh and to that, well I'm sorry to say so... But I know my woman isn't a bitch, and she'd never do bad stuff to me...

So (now this is a whole new concept) I recon my selfesteem could take the fatal blow of not always being in charge

 

Yovo- you are my hero. well said.

Nepenthean- go shove your head up your as*. you are a guest on hipforums and who gives a shit how old you are. obviously age doesn't have a "positive correlation" with maturity, to use your fancy shmancy jargon bullshit. i never speak angrily on the forums, but when someone like you comes around talking about rape like it's some light matter, i take it personally- i have my reasons. obviously you have NO sex life whatsoever, especially if you have to FORCE a girl to kiss you. looks like you're no stud, eh? and the late teens/early twenties responders have probably had experiences with sickos like you enough to feel strongly on the subject.

 

yeah... you should probably stop raping those people....

 

Thanks again for the replies. I wish I had the time to respond directly to each post, but this is not the case....we'll have to see how buzzed I get here in the next few...

I like the fidelity with which the posters express themselves, candor and forceful brevity.....To one lucky individual I will offer the following:

Hey, Lakshen, you say, 'i know my woman isn't a bitch, and she'd never do bad stuff to me.' Dig this brother, SHE IS A WOMAN BEFORE SHE IS YOUR MATE. She has more than YOUR feelings on her mind. Whether she is aware of it or not, whether she likes it or not, her mind is HARWIRED for SURVIVAL AND REPLICATION. And your personal feelings are not going to facilitate the continuity of our species. This is why girls can get over a sour relationship faster than guys. If you pan out, the mosaic of why this is necessary stands out.

So, wow, sounds like some posters out there are pretty agitated over my stance? Thanks for your attention. Let me guess...

To the degree that the female posters were pissed is the degree to which they would LOSE THEMSELVES IN THE BLISS OF being pinned down and taken like the dirty little $luts they are. They are simply too fraught with guilt and esteem issues to see this, leave aside experiencing it. They have been encumbered with social-programming since the day they ventured out of the womb and, tragically, feel they do not deserve what they really want. Unfortunately, by the time they are self-aware enough to realize where their trove lies, time and gravity will have viciously assaulted them into woeful undesirability.

To the extent that the guy posters out there feel aggrieved is different. They were most likely raised principally by their mothers and taught to respect, be a gentleman to, and most importantly, never offend, women. Nothing wrong with this at all. In fact if the chivalrous stereotypical male was en vogue, this guy would be getting laid all the time. However, even though women CLAIM to want a nice guy, a nice guy is the balder in balderdash and the exact guy with whom women will trifle ad nauseum. So, to wit: Guys are pissed with my post because it abrades their theoretical framework of what is acceptable, allowable, and possible. They instinctively feel compulsed to compete with me because my stance threatens their mediocrity and consensus trance.