castro

"In 2005, Forbes magazine listed Castro among the world's richest people, with an estimated net worth of $550 million. As a result Castro is considering filing a lawsuit against the magazine, saying the accusations are false and the article was meant to defame him."

From Wikipedia.org

And human rights watch has a good article http://www.hrw.org/reports/1999/cuba/Cuba996-01.htm
Some snippets:

"In the past two years, Cuban prosecutors have relied heavily on criminal code provisions against enemy propaganda and contempt for authority (desacato) to silence dissent. During this period, prosecutors also have tried dissidents for defamation, resisting authority, association to commit criminal acts (asociación para delinquir), failure to comply with the duty to denounce (incumplimiento del deber de denunciar), and the catch-all charge "other acts against state security" (otras actas contra la seguridad del estado). Cuba's prisons also hold nonviolent political prisoners tried for crimes against state security, such as enemy propaganda, rebellion, sabotage, and revealing secrets concerning state security. Individuals convicted of state security crimes often are serving long sentences of ten to twenty years. In addition, Cuba continues to imprison, for "dangerousness," scores of citizens who have not committed a criminal act and also confines persons for "illegal exit" for attempting to exercise their right to leave Cuba.

Cuba's treatment of political prisoners violates its obligations under the Convention against Torture and Other Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment, which it ratified on May 17, 1995. Prolonged periods of incommunicado pretrial and post-conviction detention, beatings, and prosecutions of previously tried political prisoners—where those practices result in severe pain or suffering—constitute torture under the convention. Moreover, the Convention against Torture clearly prohibits retaliation against individuals who denounce torture. "

And please don't give me any of that "Well, the u.s. does this too," cause it doesn't excuse you of anything if an enemy does it as well...

 

First of all, Wikipedia is not a secure and reliable source.

What Forbes did was to calculate the value of the state-owned factories, shops, libraries, hospitals etc. etc. and then go on to claim that Castro is among one of the richest men in the world because he supposedly "own all of this", which is total bullshit.


I would also have been a little carefull with Human Rights Watch, which is, if I am not mistaken, supported by a multi-billionaire which has supported coups in different parts of the world, and the U.S. state department (correct me if I am wrong).

Well, that are some serious allegations, isn't it?

What do you think happens to people in the United States who are funded by Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein, with the objective to destabilize the United States? Yes, that's right. They will be imprisoned.

Perhaps because they have threatened national security?

Wait, when has revolutionary Cuba ever tortured people?

 

Like it or not communism has always and will always be corrupt. When you put one person or a small group of people in charge of a nation's economy, they would be have to have "super"human morals to be able to place themselves at the level of the common people and not take advantage of the situation. Even if Fidel Castro is not one of the richest people in the world, id be willing to bet my last dollar that he is far better off than a great portion of cuba's poverty-stricken population...

 

where is your first hand truth that your propaganda is true? you get your news from one source on a russian server (at least that's where you post links from), do you know anything about who owns that server, do you know anything about the propoganda? have you looked at media that was contemporary to the things he did instead of the rewrite that is constantly done by his propagandist's


dear, you're deluded, incredibly young, or retarded, I don't know which and frankly I don't care, but castro isn't a good guy



btw, look at the amnesty int'l and pretty much any civil rights organization website's cuba page, it won't agree with you're fantasy world.....

 

You mean communism, as in the social system, or the ideology around communism?

I agree. It's a problem of leninism. But the same is true in capitalist nations. A few men control the majority of wealth in the world. Marxists are opposed to that, and the theory of the vanguard (what you mentioned above).

Would you define poverty? And would you define "far better off"? All this is just speculations. As you say yourself "I'd be willing to bet"....

Che (one of the key persons in the Cuban revolution) and his family lived like every other Cuban family. He refused to accept a significantly higher salary as President of the National Bank, and kept his wage as Commandante (which, if I am not mistaken, was at approximately 200 pesos a month). The minimum wage today is 250 pesos.

They had a car. But it was because he was a functionary for the government, and was not intended for private purposes. So when his children were sick, his wife asked if she could use the car to get the children to hospital, but Che refused, because that would elevate them from the Cuban masses, so she and the children had to take the tram, like everyone else.

It's true that Cuban children might not receive an Xbox360 for christmas, but the people are not starving. They did before the revolution, but now now. I used a receipt as toilet paper a few days ago, and a few days before that my dinner consisted of canned beans. Do I live in poverty? How should we define poverty?

 

I'm glad you can see. But if your sight should fail, you can always go to Cuba. They do eye-surgery on foreigners for free, you know. Part of their "international duty". One of the pillars in Cuba's ideology.

 

Castro's hero was not Marx or Lennin, but Alexander.

From the time he was a little boy, Castro believed in his own destiny.

From childhood, Castro's life was directed towards his fame and glory.

Castro's child-likeness is both his weakness and his strength.

Castro can be like a cult leader who must control everything.

One moment he can throw tantrums and the next he can be magnanimus.

During the revolution it was, 'his men, his tank, his weapons, his revolution.

And of course, after the revolution there were the executions.

Maybe as many as 50,000 were stood against the wall and shot.

Like a scene from the French Revolution, a million people crowded the plaza in Havana all screaming 'a pared' (to the wall).

Despite the fact that the U.S. backed dictator Batista didn't execute Castro when Castro was caught after a failed take-over of the Moncada Barracks that ended in the death of many government soldiers.

Yet it's this child-likeness that gives him his magnetic charismatic aura.

Why the Cuban People so enthusiastically embrace him as their own precocious son.

Why even the poorest man or woman in the field is comfortable taking him by the hand and lecturing him as they would their own son.

Because to them, he is their own.

Castro is passionate for the tropical spirit of that island and for the freedom of all Cubans.

The U.S. owned 70% of a miserable Cuba.

Castro is a Nationalist.

Castro only became a Communist first to liberate Cuba from U.S. ownership, and only latter to liberate all the third world from U.S. dictators.

 

Common estimates lie between 156-700. I don't think I've ever heard "maybe as many as 50,000"..

 

well 2 n's in lenin, but they're seperate......

 

150-700 executions was during the first week under the new revolution.

The mock trials went on for years, and 50,000 is the highest estimate I ever got from any Castro biography.

Moreover, for a long time Hippies, who sought an authenticity in life beyond materialism, were harrassed and imprisoned by Marxist Puritans in 'revolutionary' Cuba.

Very true!

However, when stipping naked the individual EGO, or the collective SUPER-EGO, we begin with the most superficial layers first.

Thus beginning well within the common comfort-zone.

But in the end, if our exploration is to go beyond the usual superficial political analysis, then we'll have to gain the courage to go beyond our comfort-zone.

We'll need the courage to explore the insecurities behind the intense homo-phobic preoccupations of latin patriarchy.

 

You spelled 'separate' incorrectly.

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I'm just teasing you people.

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I assumed you refered to the trials in the La Cabana fortress, under Che's command.

So you presented it as a fact, even though you aknowledge they are just "estimates". Not only that, but obviously you have seen other numbers too, since you say "the highest estimate I ever got".

I might a Castro biography myself, claiming 100,000. Or how about 500,000? That would be a new record, wouldn't it? The bigger the lie, the moe believeable, right?

 

I made a conditional statement, because the facts are unknown.

"Maybe" is a conditional word.

Yes, I have seen other numbers, the author's full statement was an estimate of 20,000 to 50,000 executions.

However, if I'm going to be sympathetic to the Cuban Revolution, then I had better be sympathetic despite 50,000 executions.

Otherwise my sympathy may prove to be an illusion.

 

I almost intentionally spelt lenin lennin in there.....


it was matthew bait....

I'm almost surprised you didn't do his level of sarcastic humour, the banter could've been fun...

 

favorite response of mine by castro was to a political bush accusation
Bush accusation:
"Cuba has been allowed to become the worlds safe haven for international prostitution"
Castro Response:
"Cuba has the most healthy clean and well educated prostitutes in the world"

 

nevada does I would wager......

 

"Bush bluffed regarding Cuba-prostitutes.

The quote Bush used regarding Fidel Castro's attitude was wrong."

"The quote, that is confirmed by government sources, was used in a student assignment, was wrongly translated by one of Bush's speech writers.

Similar mistakes has happened before, where both Bush's speechwriters and british intelligence used student assignments to substantiate information information on weapons of mass destruction."


[size=+3]"- Bush bløffet om Cuba-horer[/size]

(VG Nett) Sitatet Bush brukte om Fidel Castros holdning til prostituerte var feil."

"Sitatet som er bekreftet av regjeringskilder ble brukt i en studentoppgave, hvor det ble feiloversatt og funnet av Bush' taleskrivere.

Liknende feil har skjedd før, hvor både Bush' taleskrivere og britisk etterretning brukte uetterrettelige studentoppgaver til å underbygge informasjon om masseødeleggelsvåpen. "


Source: VG, one of Norway's most popular newspapers:
http://www.vg.no/pub/vgart.hbs?artid=236785

 

People Castro is full of shit . do you people know its illegal for a average cuban to own a computer even if 1 was lucky enough to have relatives in the U.S who would have sent the money to buy 1. get a fucking grip people have you ever seen a cuban from cuba post anything here . and many of them are aware of the 1960s music in the us and many of the U.S AM radio rock station reach cuba for a example WQAM miami was a AM rock station until the very late 60s and was heard very clear in many city and town in cuba. but yet never a cuban from cuba have posted a single word about the music from the 60s or anything alse "and english is 1 lenguage push in school over there. = AM stations well travel hundreds of miles compare to FM stations for those who dont know much about radio frequency .

 

http://www.american.edu/carmel/ms4917a/Internet Diffusion.htm

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