Bromo B-Fly / 10 mg

O.K. folks, right now I´m ready for takeoff. I measured 16mgs of 2C-B-Fly, waiting to be ingested just after I´ve posted this.
Report will follow either this night (approx 3am CET) or tomorrow during the day...

 

Sorry, that the report is a little late, but as you will see, I had a very strong experience on saturday night and was too tired to write down the report yesterday. Now here it is:

Rockets, Pillows and Waves



Substances: T +0:00 16mgs 2C-B-Fly (orally)

T +3:25 0.3g weed (smoked)

T +5:10 20mgs Methylone (orally)



Subject is a healthy male, 102 kgs, no meds taken during the last 10 days.



T +0:00 Ingestion of 16mgs of 2C-B-Fly solved in water with some apple juice on an empty stomach (last food ingestion was approx. 8 hours before). BP 141/79 mmHg, HF 68 bpm.

T +0:17 Definitely onset. Some body sensations and I feel a little cold. A little stomach discomfort.

T +0:23 A good +. Colours are much enhanced, they seem brighter. Some slight morphing effects. Stomach discomfort has gone. BP 144/78 mmHg, HF 80 bpm.

T +0:29 ++ now. I have to dim the lights a little. Body feeling is very much enhanced, touching is very intense. Minor auditory distortions.

T +0:34 A very strong ++ (and still rising!). During the last 10 mins. I tried to watch TV but this is definitely too much. My sitter lights some candels, all other lights are switched off. This is much better. I put on “Ommadawn” by Mike Oldfield, this music feels very good. Very vivid closed eye visuals.

T +0:51 Reached +++ during the last minutes, but it seems that I´ve plateaued right now. This is strong, really strong! Got some muscle cramps in my legs, my mouth is very dry. Drinking some water helps a little but not for long. BP 153/88 mmHg, HF 96 bpm.

T +1:04 Some very unpleasant jaw clenches, also some stomach discomfort again. I go to the balcony to smoke a cig. Looking into the darkness of the park behind our house is very interesting – lots of morphing effects. I run up and down the balcony because I feel that I need to move a little. After I returned to the living room I find it hard to sit down again. Lots of energy and I don´t know what to do with it.

T +1:12 I turn on the Nintendo, maybe doing a game will canalize the energy. I give up after approx 5 mins., because I can´t concentrate on it. Still +++. BP 146/77 mmHg, HF 80 bpm.

T +1:26 Clenches have gone. My sitter and I decide to do a little walk into the park. Aah, that´s good! The cold air feels very refreshing. Fortunately, there´s nobody around at this time (approx. 10:50 pm). I feel that I could get quite paranoid if I met someone. Dwarfs and goblins seem to hide behind the bushes. The stars seem brighter than ever before. The darkness around me seems to have its own colour: it´s not black, but it´s a very dark green. We pass an old maple tree: it´s morphing all the time and everywhere in the tree, I can see faces of spirits. I hug the tree, because I want to become one with it and its spirits. It seems to pulsate. Quite a spiritual experience.

T +2:02 Back to our apartment. During the last 10 mins. I had a little of a feeling, that I´m coming down. BP 142/80 mmHg, HF 92 bpm (arrhythmic!).

T +2:08 Down to ++. I´m a little disappointed, because I hoped, this material would last longer. I turn on the TV and find “Dude, where´s my car” to be shown. I love this movie under weed, so let´s see how it is under the Fly.

T +2:25 Now this is irritating: I´m back to +++. What´s happening here? And the clenches are back.

T +2:31 I´m back at ++ again. This is really strange. During the next 40 mins. I´m riding a wave between ++ and +++ for 3 times again. BP 154/97 mmHg, HF 84 bpm.

T +3:16 Back to a stabile ++. I discuss with my sitter how to go own with the trip.

T +3:25 I smoke 1/3 gram of weed. Instantly I shoot back to +++. Still very much energy, but a the same time I feel very tired. I can´t describe this, it´s somehow like trying to sleep while riding a rollercoaster. “Saturday night live” has just started, but once again I can´t concentrate on the TV, so I ask my sitter to put on a CD again. She chooses Bo Hansson´s “Lord of the rings”, one of my favourite trip CDs. I can really feel the music, but some parts are just too fast for me. Once again I go to the balcony to smoke a cig. Very intense visuals as I look out into the darkness. The trees move in a gentle fall wind and morph all the time. Some kind of weird manga is running before my eyes. It´s quite cold out there but I don´t feel it. BP 138/86 mmHg, HF 104 bpm.

T +3:47 Trip is still very fast and slow at the same time. I still can´t describe this state. My thoughts are running at high speed but most of it doesn´t make any sense. I feel that I have lots of ideas, but I fail to put them down. My sitter offers to assist me, but I find out, that there are no words to describe my ideas. They have a lot to do with physics and chemistry, but nothing really makes sense.

T +3:58 As always, when a trip is very fast, my smoking frequency rises. I´m back to the balcony when it comes to me, what I tried to describe during the last 30 mins: this trip´s is like a rocket flying into a huge pile of pillows again and again. Yes, that´s it! At one moment I´m the rocket, at the next moment I´m the pillows, and one moment later I´m neither the rocket nor the pillows, but the pure speed energy! Visuals are still wild. BP 135/87 mmHg, HF 108 bpm.

T +4:23 Fortunately, the trip has become a little slower during the last 5 mins, a strong ++ now. Now I´m really enjoying this (not that it was too unpleasant before, but at some times, the energy was simply too much). Back to the TV, “SouthPark” is on. I have lots of fun during the next 30 mins. After that I try a little gaming on the PC, which goes surprisingly well, but becomes boring after approx. 15 mins. BP 142/77 mmHg, HF 84 bpm.

T +5:05 I´m getting tired. It´s already 2:25 am, but my sitter has had so much coffee during the evening, that she doesn´t want to go to bed – neither do I. I bring on the idea from my first 2C-B-Fly experience, that some Methylone could be quite interesting. Unfortunately, I only have 20mgs left. We decide, that I should try it.

T +5:10 20mgs of Methylone solved in apple juice are ingested.

T +5:16 Wow, here comes the rocket again! I´ve never had such a fast response to Methylone before, and the 20mgs feel just like normally 150mgs do. Talking is easy. Writing is easy. Everything is just easy! BP 162/101 mmHg, HF 112 bpm.

T +5:28 The waves are back, but this time with a much higher amplitude. Try to imagine this: Changing from +++ to threshold and back to +++ within minutes. Now this is what I call a psychedelic rollercoaster! (I wonder what would have happened, if I had had more Methylone at hand...) At one moment I feel like up in space and the next moment I think I could perfectly run machines or drive a car – which I´d never do under RCs, but it brings my sitter to an idea: Some months ago, we luckily got a copy of an original training program used in some driving schools. I start it on my PC and off I go… well, not too good… After causing 2 major and 9 minor accidents and killing 8 innocent pedestrians, 2 cats and 1 deer within just 13 minutes (only virtually of cause!), I realize, that operating any kind of machine at this moment wouldn´t be a very good idea… Going back to the TV.

T +5:51 After zapping around for a while, I find a documentary movie about the “Apollo Project”, underlayed with music from the 60s and 70s. As Apollo 10 takes off, I have a wave to +++ again. I am the rocket! This is really great. I switch on the beamer and the surround system for full cinematic experience. Wow! This is really like the state I´m in! I phantasize being an astronaut and flying into space. This is just the right stuff at the right time.

T +6:44 The documentary movie is over. I´m getting a little tired again, but am still riding the waves. How long is this going to last? BP 158/91 mmHg, HF 92 bpm.

T +7:02 Very hungry all of a sudden. I realize that I haven´t eaten for more than 15 hours. I assist my sitter in making some pasta, which tastes surprisingly good, but isn´t enough for my hunger. I eat some crisps and some chocolate, but miss the point to stop… now the stomach discomfort is back!

T +7:41 Feeling a little better – and more tired. I´m coming down a little, but it´s still a good ++. Maybe the eating pushed the metabolism of the substances a little. BP 151/84 mmHg, HF 80 bpm.

T +8:05 Still a stabile ++. The visuals have become weaker, but there´s still a lot of morphing around me. Like in the beginning, some minor auditory distorsions. Once again I try the Nintendo, but find it to be unsatisfactory. Watching TV isn´t the best either, but I have no idea what to do with the rest of the night (or morning, actually it´s already 5:25 am!).

T +8:40 Getting more and more tired, the same does my sitter. At + now. We decide to go to bed right now. First I think, that a little weed could help me sleep better, but as soon as I´m in bed, I realize it to be unnecessary. Within minutes I fall asleep, still at +. Very wild and vivid dreams.



After 11 (!) hours I awake (at 5 pm), still a little numb, but finally out of the experience. After only 6 ½ hours, I have no problem going to bed again. Next day I wake up fresh and clear.



Conclusions:

The 2C-B-Fly / Methylone combo is definitely worth further exploration. If 20mgs of Methylone have such an effect, how high could you go with, let´s say, 100mgs? If this was already a rocket to the moon, a higher dosage could easily lead to warp 9!

I guess the next time, I´ll lower the 2C-B-Fly to 10-12mgs, but mix it with a higher Methylone dose ingested at the same time…

 

Excellent report...I've had the same rollercoaster effect from insufflated 2-CT-7.

I also enjoy testing my motor coordination skills in videogames while I'm tripping...I'm actually undefeatable on Gran Turismo 4 under the influence.

Are you using any sort of equipment to test your blood pressure and such?

 

Yep. As my wife (my sitter) and I are both physicians, we always have some medical equiment at hand while tripping, especially when we use new substances. Fortunately we only had one emergency so far...

 

What emergency was that?

I always thought it'd be nifty to have a defibrillator handy, but $1,000+ ain't my cup of tea.

 

It was a high dose of datura (approx. 30mgs of scopolamine). It took 3 persons to medicate me with the antidote and to inject me 125mgs (!) of Valium to get me back into reality.

I can´t see a reason why you should need a defi. If you don´t suffer from a severe heart desease, you normally won´t come into a situation where you´ll need it (and if you do suffer from a heart desease, you shouldn´t do any kind of drugs!).

We normally have a wide variety of meds at hand, such as sedatives, antipsychotic, antiemetic and some common antidotes. Also we have some basic diagnostic equipment and an intubation set. And a small surgery kit to treat wounds that might occur during a trip. Fortunately we haven´t used most of this stuff before, but it gives you a feeling of safety.

But if you´re no physician, you should imho stay away from trying to fix medical problems caused by drugs yourself. Better call the ambulance and tell them what has happened - they know better what to do than you ever could!

 

I think it hasn't been here yet so I'll ask :

How is 2c-b fly in comparsion to normal 2c-b. Is it more similar than e.g. 2c-I to 2c-b ?

 

I found the fly to be weaker than the same dose of 2C-B.
But if I compare the 2C-B-Fly/Methylone combo to 2C-B/MDMA, it´s almost equal, in some respect even stronger.

 

I'm going to dose 20 mg next weekend with two or three 10 mg-dosed friends...hopefully I won't be disappointed!

 

Hey eat_some, we´re waiting for ya report...
How did it go?

 

Oh, not this weekend, next weekend (after Thanksgiving). Neither of them have tripped before, so it should be an interesting experience to say the least.

 

Your report is still missing... how did it go?

 

What is bromo dragonfly and what is 2c-b fly?

 

2C-B-FLY is 1-(8-Bromo-2,3,6,7-tetrahydrobenzo[1,2-b:4,5-b'] difuran-4-yl)-2-aminoethane

‘Bromo Dragonfly’ AKA ‘DOB-DFLY’ is 1-(8-bromobenzo[1,2-b;4,5-b']difuran-4-yl) -2-aminopropane a fully aromatized substitution of DOB… or so the US feds would be likely to argue…

Both are novel compounds that have only been ingested by the smallest number of human beings. 2C-B-FLY has existed for about 10 years tops and has probably only been sampled by a few hundred humans and a few hundred lab rats tops... Its effects are still a bit sketchy and may vary from person to person. There has been much discussion of 2C-B-FLY after a Shulgin paper from the Tucson 2004 conference. This is a copy of that paper:

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From the working draft of an upcoming book by Shulgin, "Psychedelic Index", Transform Press, 2004




Names:

2C-B-FLY
1-(8-Bromo-2,3,6,7-tetrahydrobenzo[1,2-b:4,5-b']difuran-4-yl)-2-aminoethane

Registry Numbers:

CARN
HCL salt 178557-21-6

Natural sources:

Not known in nature

Synthesis:

From hydroquinone (with 1-chloro-2-bromoethane) to 1,4-bis(2-chloroethoxy)benzene (with Br2) to 1,2-bis(2-chloroethoxy)-2,5-dibromobenzene (with BuLi) to 2,3,6,7-tetrahydrobenzo[1,2-b:4,5-b']difuran (with dichloromethyl methyl ether) to 4-formyl-2,3,6,7-tetrahydrobenzo[1,2-b:4,5-b']difuran (with CH3NO2) to 4-(2-nitro-1-ethylene)-2,3,6,7-tetrahydrobenzo[1,2-b:4,5-b']difuran (with LAH) to 1-(2,3,6,7-Tetrahydrobenzo[1,2-b:4,5-b']difuran-4-yl)-2-aminoethane (with Br2) to 2C-B-FLY (Monte, et al., 1996).

History:

The "FLY" name was inspired by the two dihydrofuran rings that extend oppositely from the sides of the benzene ring. When they are aromatized (furan rings) they are planar with the benzene ring and the code name is "DRAGONFLY" and they are listed as DFLY derivatives.

Physical properties:

C12 H14 Br N O2
HCl salt m.p. >310 (EtOH, EtOAc) (Monte, et al. 1996).

Pharmacology:

The five "FLY" compounds (2C-FLY, 2C-B-FLY, FLY, B-FLY and DOM-FLY) were assayed in a drug discrimination paradigm with LSD-trained rats, and in interactions with various serotonin receptors. (Monte, et al., 1996).
2C-B-FLY is active in man at an oral dose of 10 milligrams (Shulgin, 2003a)

Legal Status: 2C-B-FLY is not listed in any law.

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The listing is from an upcoming Shulgin version of the Merck Index... only for psychedelics... it is anticipated some time in 2006 and is expected to contain detailed information on about 1,000 possibly psychedelic compounds.

BTW the all the real cool kids know where their local university library is or can at least spell Google... But in lieu of actually doing research for your own self you can probably find a good deal of information on Bluelight as well.

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