exercise-flashbacks

yo just wonderin something. I heard or read somewhere that acid flashbacks occur more often during exercise(moreso intense exercise). recentlry i tried to research this on the net but found squat. so as an athlete ( i run) i was wondering if anybody knew anything about this or at least heard the same thing(or experienced it themselves)?

 

flashbacks are unexplained phenomenoms.

 

Well I heard you can 'get high' , by doing exercise because the thc in your fat cells would liberate and go to your brain...But I wouldn't see why exercise would trigger lsd flashbacks. Marijuana though triggers em big time.

For me the few flashbacks I have had were at random moments. Waking up in the middle of the night, or at the job, in class.

BTW can you get flashbacks if you don't have HPPD? Cuz erowid seem to associate the two.

 

I have experienced this. One time this summer I was running on the treadmill a couple days after eating some LSD. I have never experienced an acid flashback but this could be the only explanaition for what I was experiencing. I felt like I was running robotically and that if I looked down at my feet, this feeling would stop. So I just kept going and it eventually subsided after about 10 minutes. i think it could be because most drugs are stored in your fat cells and when you burn that fat, you could be experiencing it again on a less intense level.

 

Cannabis is the only compound that I know of that is extremely fat soluble; which explains it's ability to stay in your system for 30 days, as opposed to the rest of the usual suspects, leaving your body in anywhere from 1 day to a week.

HPPD (flashbacks) are the intense memorization of a past occourance under the influence under a psychedelic. It's not a physical phenomenon, but a psychological infestation. The disorder is closely related to (and actually is, IMO) PTSD, or Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder. This is usually indicative that an individual exerpienced a life-changing event that manifests itself in the form of a new lifestyle, likening to the experience subjected to war vets (who also have "flashbacks").

Generally these problems aren't intense enough to interfere with the patient's daily schedule, and can usually be dealt with under the practition of therapy.

 

Great post...I have hppd and see it positively. It changed the way my mind works, and I don't feel like the same person as before it happened. Its not too good for my role in society, made me kinda drop out of it. But I feel like I am free. Free. My mind is a carnival. LSD makes me crazy, but it makes it good.

Should I worry about liking hppd? hehe

 

I think the idea you're getting at is that stress is more likely to induce "flashbacks," or make your HPPD more intense. Stress could be exercise, lack of sleep, too many things to do that are bothering you, your girlfriend breaking up with you etc. etc.. Stress is a common trigger for HPPD symptoms FWIU.

 

when a person ingests lsd a large amount of the drug is not excreted in urine or through normal bodily flushing becuse much of the chemical comes to rest in the spinal cord in small globules that are contained in a film produced by the body when the membrane is rptured ie. (you crack your back in the right spot) the chemical has the potentila to be released into your body through the spinal cord this is in most cases quite unpleasant due to the direct contact with the chemical and degradation of the spinal fluid when the chemical is released

 

ur telling me if i crack my spine i can get a free trip?
righteously fucking awesome man,im gonna go jump off my roof

ive never experienced "flashback" type symptoms from exercising,its usually from stress,insomnia and smoking grass

 

Wasn't that some kind of myth?

 

lmfao. Almost ALL of the LSD you take, which is a very tiny amount to begin with, is gone out your pisser very soon after you take it. If you're going to try to sound like you know what you're talking about, read some credible sources first. Your friend from high school, your propaganda-preaching teachers or parents, the D.A.R.E website, a fucking LEO, whoever told you that is a complete moron and is NOT a credible source.

 

yeah don't listen to that guy about spinal tapping.

oh, and i certainly don't buy that HPPD is purely psychological.

 

I do. It's just a manifestation of PTSD, IMHO.

 

Well i heard that some of the acid stores in your body fat so therefore when people are working excessively they burn those fat cells and then wallah flashback...

 

first of all, the amount of acid that it takes to trip is rediculously small. 1 tea spoon of liquid acid would be enough to dose something like 5000 people, at least thats what I've heard. Point is, the amount of chemicals going into your body to begin with is pretty small. Its not collecting in your spine or your fatty tissues or anything like that.

Flashbacks, I believe at least, are triggered by certain events, as mentioned. It isn't chemicals going into your spine or anything, its all in your head. Its not really known, as far as I know, how acid actually works, but its my opinion that once you're mind experiences the trip, it can re-create certain parts of the tripping experience on its own. Almost like the adage "Give a man a fish, he'll eat for a day; teach a man to fish he'll eat for the rest of his life" You can take a drug that will make your mind work in a particular way but after that your mind learns how to create the trip on its own, at least in parts. You might not know you can re-create aspects of your trip, but once something triggers it it can come out. Thats my theory and I'm sticking to it!

 

Haven't you ever heard of "the runner's high"? After sustained exercise, the body starts releasing endorphins (or the body's natural opiates) into the bloodstream. But can endorphins trigger an acid flashback? Being more of a calming effect, endorphins don't seem like a likely candidate.

However, under stress, the body secretes Adrenaline, which is the body's version of "speed", and we know that we shouldn't mix "speed" with our acid! Adrenalin and "panic anxiety attacks" are the best triggering factors in acid flashbacks. If you go without sleep long enough (i.e. insomnia), you'll most likely "hallucinate", even if you never consumed any type of psychedelic in your life! If you're "tired" or sleepy, you're in a "twilight zone" between conscioiuness and unconsciousness. This is a natural phenomenon and is a definate acid flashback trigger. I have experienced this one, but only after powerful acid trip. For me, it only lasted a few days, afterward.

Pot is definately a fat-soluable compound-plant and THC will store for awhile in your fat cells. If you're a heavy, long-time user, it may take months, or a year or two, to rid of ALL the THC stored in your fat cells, after quitting. But this is an extreme example, with lighter and/or infrequent pot smoking, it would be removed alot quicker (in days or weeks). This could definately be an acid flashback trigger, or maybe it's just a new pot trip from the release of pure THC in the cells?

I've heard that viruses are supposedly stored in the base of your spine. Radiation concentrates in your brain and testicles! I've heard that LSD supposedly concentrates in the base of the spine, too (not likely, though), but then scientists haven't really figured out what happens to LSD after it enters your body. Another theory, is that LSD enters the body and goes out so fast that it is out of your body, before you even trip! The LSD molecules sets-off a "cascade effect" of bio-chemical reactions (like a bio-chemical dominoes chain-reaction effect), then some final unknown chemical (produced in our bodies) causes the tripping. This theory also helps explain that weird LSD "quick tolerance" thing, i.e. the body takes time to replace its final tripping chemical.

Whatever organic molecule causes the "tripping", it's just a bio-chemical "key" only. It unlocks parts of the mind, and then it's just a head trip after that! If scientists can figure out for sure how LSD works in the body, then we could discuss the physical causes of acid flashbacks, but that information is lacking. We can only speculate, now.

So eat some LSD, 2cesarewild, Krin and Grapefruity's posts are accurate. PlyTheMan has an interesting theory, though.

"Golly Mr. Kesey, This is Sure Some Swell Kool-Ade!"

Peace out. Trip out.

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2cesarewild,
so then all that static in the background of my vision ever since doing acid is psychological? i find that near impossible to believe. marijuana aggravates the symptom as well.

 

Happens to me too, but with pretty colors and breathing objects lol... It's like a psychological switch was flipped in my mind and now my mind likes to see things in a psychedelic way. Wait, isn't this called enlightenment? lmao... jk.. anywho, IDK nobody can say for sure what causes HPPD symptoms, because no one actually knows, but I'm more convinced that it's mostly a psychological change in the way you perceive reality. In turn though there has to be like some sort of neurochemical or biological change or something because your psyche is just a bunch of chemicals and reactions anyways.

 

exactly...

do you see tiny little silvery/shiny staticky moving stars too?

 

i did a lot of shrooms in the past and i got no HPPD. Then i did DXM 3 times and i noticed something not quite right in my vision. After my first acid trip on saturday it has got noticable worse although teh only symptoms are trails and sometimes negative afterimages that happen when you look at something and then look at something else but the original object remaisn in your vision for several seconds but in a different colour (this means they are negative, i think positive ones are when teh afterimages are in the same colour). It is a similiar effect a normal person gets from looking at a lightbulb and looking away but with HPPD I get it just looking at anything lightly coloured, so browns and blacks are OK but yellows whites reds blues and other bright colours leave an imprint on my vision. TBH i enjoy it though, kind of like the visuals i got from smoking A LOT of skunk this one time, superimposed colourful patterns from my imagination visually displayed in front of my eyes yet oddly transparent.