Alcohol & Weed?

I was curious as to what your opinions were on this -

If you saw your best friend or family member get up out of bed in the morning and pour themselves an alcoholic drink, what would you think? would you think they were an alcoholic? would you find it unaceptable? would you do it yourself?

Now apply the same thinking to someone getting up and smoking a bowl, do you find that acceptable? I have found a lot of hypocracy surrounding this. Stoners claim that a smoke in the morning helps them clear their mind, start their day feeling inspired and creative, I am sure alcoholics claim the same thing.

I personally would be horrified if I saw someone drinking at 8am, but I have thought nothing of getting up and starting my day off with a smoke, in my eyes that makes me a hypocryte.

Whats your view?

 

a friend of mine drinks in the morning. hes an alchoholic. when i was in a habit of smoking, id smoke in the morning. you are a hypocrit, if you are horrified by someone drinkning that early. actually, youre just naive, because youre generalising something through cultural stereotype. the only reason drinkning early in the day is frowned apon is because in most people's lives, drinkning in the morning means youre drunk during the day, when youre meant to be working or being responsible for something. if smoking was as common and acceptable as alchohol, then it would probably be the same. however, there is a word for alchoholic, and casual drinker, but what is the word for a stoner who smokes all the time, as opposed to a stoner who smokes in the evening or at parties or with friends or whatever? there is noi word for that. pothead? nope. theres no line, linguistically, between the sensible smoker and the socially unnacceptable smoker, because smoking is socially unnacceptable in the first place. (maintstream society)

 

There is a bit of a difference because alcohol is addicting and weed isn't (physically). So an alcoholic literally can't function without that first drink, they literally need it to stop shaking. Ok, not all alcoholics are that far gone, but that's where it's headed, and that first drink is still needed even if you don't have the shakes, it's a more subtle physical need.

That said, I still think it's irresponsible to be stoned all day, unless it's medicinal. My cousin works where I do and comes in high all the time, it's annoying because he slacks off more and I have to do his work. Sure it's more fun for him, but it's less effective. Recreational smoking is just that, recreation. To be done after school or work, when all your tasks are done.

If you have the day off, wake and bake is alright. Weed really isn't the same animal as alcohol, so it's wrong to treat them exactly the same. That's what got weed illegal: lumping it in with "drugs". However, it shouldn't be a habit, you know? I have issues with the idea of being high all day every day (job or no job). There's clearly a problem if you need to be high that much, it's no longer just a fun or enlightening thing to do, it's an addiction.

 

yup, alchohol is addictive, but addiction can be fed at nighttime only as well. addiction is not the issue. the issue is what youre actually doing. smoking all the time, drinkning all the time. it matters not if you can stop, it matters only if you do stop. just like most people arent at that point in alchoholism, most people, but not all people, arent at the point in smoking where they wont function without weed.

the issue here is social acceptance, because it is this which makes the threadstarter disgusted at the thought of smoking in the morning. that thought has nothing to do with the basis of motive behind habit of the drugs.

the other issue is i guess also functioning at work, which you can do much better while stoned compared to drunk, thus why theres less relative opposition to smoking in the morning as opposed to drinking

 

Tha's the point I was trying to make, the majority of stoners I have met think its perfectly fine to be stoned all day everyday, they dont use weed for recreational purposes only, they use it as an alternative reality. Yet their attitude towards people doing the same thing with alcohol is usually always hypoctritycal.
I wonder if attitudes would change should weed every be legalized and available from you local 7/11 on the shelf right next to the Vodka?

 

No Bill, you've got that the wrong way around, I am not disgusted by people smoking in the morning, I have done it on occasions myself, what suprised me was my own hypocracy at seeing someone drinking first thing in the morning and thinking that it was wrong, when I just 10 mins before hand smoked a joint.

 

Smokers need nicotine all day, not just at night. Junkies need heroin all day, not just at night. Alcoholics need alcohol all day, not just at night.

And not everyone functions better at work stoned, that's not accurate at all. My cousin clearly does not. I know I would not (though I've never done it). Weed is for recreation, mind expansion, and sometimes medicine. It's not responsible to be going to work stoned, that's not why you were hired.

I agree with Gixer, when you start using weed as an "alternate reality" you are addicted. There is no reason that "normal reality" should be so unappealing or impossible to bear. Sobriety is not bad at all, not to mention it's what makes those smoke sessions so good...the contrast.

 

my father is an alcoholic and he drinks all day every day and hes fine he can function and do what he needs to im actly more upset with the fact that wont stop working then his drinking, i think it goes for every person some peope can get up drink and do what ever some cant same with weed, but i do think if you got shit to do then you shouldnt be on any drug at all of corse unless its for a medicial perpous,so if you got the day off from work/school whatever and you start your day with a toke or a drink its fine more power to ya, but if you got to be to work in a half hour and your wasting your time getting high or drunk theres something wronge

 

Thats a good point dude.

 

A shot in the morning keeps me pretty calm for the rest of the day, and I go about things with less laziness than usual.

A drink in the morning is no different from a drink at 3pm, 5pm, 10pm, or 3am. It's all how you see it.

 

I take a hit or two before I go to school, and i function better then I normally would. Well, first period gets borked, but who the fuck needs gym anyway? The rest of the day I do good.

 

yeah. better than snorting crack.

 

some misscommunication, for i didnt say threadstarter found smoking disgusting, nor that smoking makes you better at working lol, just better than if you were pissed. but the point has been made, and who can be fucked with this whole arguement between drinkning and smoking all day

 

Drinking causes more damage than pot. Its a harder drug.

Commited stoners can be funny about drinking.

 

I love my pot... Just the other day I was saying how if someone offered me $1,000,000 to spend on booze to drink by myself WITHOUT resale, or a pound of the funkiest, stankiest, best weed around, I'd go with the weed.

(notice the increased detail on weed lol)

 

Yup I'm the same as you Twizz, I'd take the weed over alcohol any day.

And Bill,
Who can be fucked with this argument? well obviously you seeing as you've contributed to it a few times

 

i agree. and for the whole thread discussion, as long as you are as responsible for yourself as you can be with a scotch or a bowl each morning and not let it effect you in ways such as working or school effort and not let it lead to an addiction or any other way that could negatively effect your life. Live free.
As for myself, ive waked and baked before but prefer it as an evening thing because after the first hour or 2 of school you kind of get tired of being their more than you would be sober. And im not big on drinking anyways.

 

whoa. radiohead. that sig speaks so much...

wisdom.

 

I only get hard alcohol when it's free. I don't think it's worth struggling to get a shot (let alone more!) down my hardcore stoner-ized throat. The pain is not worth the fun. Beer is good, but I only buy it sometimes, because it's so fucking expensive.

Weed is just as expensive, but I think it's more worth it. No hangover, just stoned all of the next day, but who can complain about that?

 

^personally, I'd rather take a quick few shots, than have to drink all that nasty beer... ick. As they say, liquor is quicker. Plus, you can always mix it, or at least chase it with something that tastes good.

But I rarely ever drink anyways, and mostly just a glass of wine at that. I really don't like alcohol and how it makes me feel. Pass the weed, please!