Assuming I bought about... 180 of those dried poppy pods, ground them up, and then soaked them in an acetone / butane / isopropanol / ethanol bath; poured out the solvent, and then evapporated it, would the result be smokable (the extract contained in the solvent)?
the only thing you can do with poppie heads is tea,thats it, well unless there on poppie plant thats growing, i would take the seeds from the heads and grow some poppies and harvest the opium
Hmm.... wouldn't the result be vaporizable at a reasonable temperature; mix it in with some weed and roll a joint...?
ive been interested as well and have been checking back to see the answer... deadonceagain, r u postive?
well you could smoke it but what would be the point i dont think you would get anything if much out of it plus the chemicals you are using are something you wouldnt want to smoke,i know this is how hash is made and people are fine and the solvent is dryed and no longer there but im obsesive when it comes to safty, i would use grain alcohol. try it ive heard of people trying it and smoke it will realy no effects, like i said better off growing some plants from the seeds in the pod, havesting your own opium is pretty much fool proof and very very very easy poppies dont take alot of care either and pretty much can grow with out much human care,give it shot is all i can say
No, you CAN make opium from thet pods, are you guys stupid. There are tutorials everywhere on how to make opium from the pods. I have done it myself before, search poppies.org they help alot.
That is complete contradicting yourself, think that over a little bit man. The poppy heads he would be buying, would have the dried opium in them just as if you were to grow them.
i don't know, i've made large batches of tea and evaporated the water off and retrieved a very resinous extract in a large amount, but no amount of smoking seemed to effectively deliver an opiate buzz. however, i did notice a bit of a buzz about an hour after swallowing a rather large lump of it once. i think this is potentially a good idea, but that most likely we're extracting a lot more than just opium. when you make opium, you cut the pod (but do not completely puncture it) and let the sap seep out. the sap is collected, because it is opium. but when you extract pods with water or any other type of solvent, you're not just extracting the opium, you're extracting other stuff (chemicals from the pod shell and sometimes some of the straw) you'll get things such as chlorophyll and other substances that are not normally found in any significant quantity in real opium. i'm sure that there is opium in these extracts, but that there is a relatively LARGE quantity of other stuff in it too, which is why these extracts taste rather bad when smoked, why so few people report getting sufficient effects from it to repeat the process, and so on. i dont think it's complete shit, but i think that if you want to get good effects from a dried extract your best bet may be to roll a decent sized blunt with about 3/4 pot and 1/4 "opium" if it turns out stronger than you expected, you can always put it out once you feel good. but i've never gotten much of anything smoking it by itself or mixed in a bowl. never tried in a blunt. it tasted pretty bad, similar to the way poppy tea tastes bad, only more bearable. it might be worth experimenting with, but i would prefer a more selective extract....like if i could get a decent extract of pretty much pure opiate alkaloids (the mixture of codeine, morphine, etc.) then i would like to do that. but i think making such a simple extraction as we're discussing may not be the most effective way to use your poppies. i'd like to find some more detailed directions for making some more potent extracts. it only stands to reason an extract would be smokable, but i've never had good results and wouldnt suggest trying, though any new input on the matter you could provide would be good. flyeyes....i thought i'd asked you about what you knew of making smokable extracts but that you said you'd had bad luck with the quality? perhaps i remember wrong. but either way, even if it works, if it doesnt work WELL then its really not worth it, imo. i'd like to try to find a better way though. if someone tries using a different solvent than alcohol or water, let me know. i dont have any idea if a nonpolar solvent like you'd use for hash oil would extract opiates or not, but if it does it may be able to make a more selective extract, same as using them for hash oil instead of using alcohol as a solvent...same basic stuff, more potent...
My other thought would be heating the extract to a near melting temperature... (Sulfate melts at 250C) such as 225*C, and removing all that waste product. Then increase the temperature to just above 250C, and you hsould have a someone near-good product. What temperature does morphine sulfate boil at? Or does it decompose?
Yes when I did make it, it was very crude but you could keep doing the process a couple times to get a more potent batch to where it would give you quite a buzz, just takes a bit.
yes they would have dryed opium if you read my post before ive heard of people making opium this way but most people feel littile to nothing, i said you would be better off growing living poppys from the seeds this would be alot better idea because you know your getting good opium that will give you the effects you want, id rather do that then go through a whole extraction method that makes a shitty product
yeah, its not too fun to smoke that shit, but you can still mold it into little "pills" of pure extract...it gets real stiff as it dries more, and has a smooth surface...it's easy to swallow them like pills with some oj or something. just make sure you dont take too much...figure out how many pods make a good dosage for the batch you have, then figure the total weight of the finished product and divide it up into oral doses accordingly. it will still probably take a good bit, but it would be better than smoking it, and in my opinion less unpleasant than drinking tea; still, tea may well be more effective...it would hit you faster since you wouldnt have to digest it