What do you think about gays?

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  1. hippypaul

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    I do not know, but I would suspect that you have met many. There is currently almost a popularity attached to bisexual females. However, bisexual males are seen as less desirable because of the risk of HIV so they tend to keep a lower profile.
     
  2. Bocks

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    I realise you have a point, in that the argument is interesting. I just think that there are some people who have a certain mentality that is unchangeable. I am COMPLETELY FOR everything you're arguing. More power to you, I say.

    Also, I am dark-skinned, and I think racism is IN PART an attitude. There are dark-skinned people who are convinced that white people are out to get them. I don't think that, so I don't have a problem. However, I don't speak for everyone. I'm sure there are examples of anti-black folks *cough cough Prussian Blue cough*.

    I think that telling someone repeatedly that homosexuals are human too, as simple as the concept is to understand, is not going to change their minds. but the best of luck from me.

    Peace.
     
  3. Samhain

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    and I see your point too (what is this mutual love!) I think once the points have been made there comes a time where the predjudices seem so deeply ingrained its not worth trying with that particular person and if your around them a firm 'I don't want to hear it' is the best course of action.
    I think this thread never really was about changing the authors points of view actually but was more about people reflecting on our own attitutes on sexuality.
    I wouldn't be surprised if the author wasn't that homophobic anyway, with the nature of the post it puts me in mind of someone who's never really thought about the subject and is posting once to get attention- which I think is rather sad really
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  4. Samhain

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    unless you ask the person or they talk about their sexuality you wouldn't know
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  5. freakon

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    of course! respect! 100%! everybody should be able to have sex the way he wants it...
    But, there is a small minority of gays that i -personally- find a bit... i don't know... I am a girl, and i have said good bye to the make-up/diva brainwash that so many of us have got since chilhood. But some gays ACTUALLY chose this fashion slavery, this lipstick/eyeshadow/tits blabla... stuff and make it a life style, and then we say that gays are so openminded?! i don't think so, in this particular case. But, hey, freedom first, for sure....
     
  6. hippypaul

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    I have a friend who does the full dress suit thing every day. He reads Playboy for the advice on how to tie a four-in-hand knot. Therefore, I guess he is a fashion slave. However, I never thought the less of him because of it. It is his mind that makes him my friend not his job or his clothing.
     
  7. JanaXGIRL

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    Gays? Ehm I don't know what I think.. just.. OK.. The fact that someone's gay doesn't tell me anything. It depends on personality, what I think..
     
  8. Bocks

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    In that case, my opinion has been shed. I think it's really interesting the way so many homosexuals find each other, so to speak. I mean, when you consider the tiny %age of the population that they occupy (2-10% according to a number of statistcs), what are the odds that each will find his/her soulmate? And how many straight people do homosexuals ask out before they find their homosexual soulmate?

    ALSO, according to some other statistics, something like 15% of high school students are gay, which seems like an outrageously high figure, considering that in the general population, only about 10% (supposedly) are gay. I'd say 5% of the "gay" high school students are confused...
     
  9. Fortunate Son

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    Myself I don't dislike homosexuals or discriminate against them but I do believe that there is something not right about the whole ordeal...inhuman. Call me crazy, wierd, whatever but sodomy is just wrong to me.
     
  10. hippypaul

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    By sodomy, I guess you mean oral or anal sex. However, if you and a woman were having them that would be OK?
     
  11. I_got_life

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    oh, they have maid their choise, why people must hate them for that.they are like us.
     
  12. FeelinGroovy

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    Uh... Duh!
     
  13. FeelinGroovy

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    I have known quite a few homosexual males enough for them to be open about their sexuality and non of them admit to being bisexual.


    This brings up another point that has been bothering me lately.

    There are a large percentage of gay males that work out at the gym that I work out at and I have become friends with a number of them. However, very few are honest about their preference. The reason that I know this is that the few that are open about it have informed me of the others who are gay.

    I haven't come right out and asked them, but I have tried to get conversations to go there so that they could come out in the open and break the ice about their sexual preference and all they do is mislead and even act like they are straight or join in with sexual discussions as if they are straight. And some of them are even worse than the straight guys abought talking about women as if they are pieces of meat!

    I am aware that I live in an area that predominantly rejects homosexuality but I am also slightly offended that these people who have become my friends are still so reluctant to be themselves with me. I am heterosexual by-the-way.

    As long as they don't make me feel unconfortable as though they are "checking me out" or "making passes at me" I couldn't care less about their sexual preference! Heck, if anything, for every gay male there is, that's one less person to be in competition with me for the women!
     
  14. Lodui

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    I think we all agree homophobia's pretty gay. :H
     
  15. Samhain

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    well actually not really, you said ive never met a male bi, I can't believe you ask every guy you meet if he's bi, you must have meet male bisexuals and not know about it
    with regards to your last post i believe sexual preference is private, theres more to a human being than who they are attracted too sexually, i just don't think it needs to be an important issue.
    as for I know they're gay because i was told they where, well thats hear say and I think its up to the individual themself to make a statement about their sexulity.
    i think other peoples sex lives are really boring anyway, and it doesn't make any difference to me that the guy exerciseing next to me is attracted to men women or both. UNLESS I was attracted to him.
    if your just my good friend what difference does it make to my life who your sleeping with?
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  16. Bassist

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    Ha, it seems like you're being the agressive one...

    If your friends don't want to come out to you, let them be. You'll just end up making them feel uncomfortable.
     
  17. Fortunate Son

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    To answer your question, no I am not a hypocrit. I have my beliefs and I follow them, I will not and do not push them on to other people, another problem I see in most of the American society, which yes I am a part of and really couldn't speak of any others not having any knowledge of them being naive and not well traveled like I am and all. But hey nobody is perfect and everyone has their problems, I guess depending on how you look at it, not agreeing with the practice of sodomy is one of mine.
     
  18. Bassist

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    Tons of straight couples enjoy anal sex, but I guess that's different...[​IMG]

    But yeah, I guess I'm just inhuman. Oh well.
     
  19. Samhain

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    to follow from Hippypauls point a lot of gay men don't practice sodomy for a lot of reasons, but will practice other sexual activities.
    the 'first cases' are of ancient times are of straight couples practicing sodomy as early contraceptive.
    so the question is do you disagree with homosexulity or with sodomy, because if you disagree with homosexulity and you want to be open about it your arguement needs to be a lot stronger
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  20. Fortunate Son

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    Maybe I have a misunderstanding of homosexuality having never been in contact with it personally and not knowing any that are homosexual, again I say there isn't much of this world I have seen yet. But I don't believe that homosexuality is right, excuse me if I'm not to good at explaining myself as I am told I do have trouble with it on occasion I do not wish to offend anybody though that is damn near impossible to do as I have yet to meet anyone who could accomplish that feat. Anyway as I try to get back on topic as I seem to have rambled. I do not agree with or sexual relations of any kind between two people of the same gender. That being said I do not dislike homosexuals, though I know it's somewhat hard to grasp and harder for me to explain. And I will correct myself as I had also misunderstood the word sodomy as I didn't know it included oral sex which I am not against, I make mistakes it's true. Of course it's just plain selfish if the guy (or girl) is always on the recieving end of it. So to say I am against sodomy is a bit off the mark, more as I am against anal sex as I believe it is an exit-only, but to each their own I guess. Hate me for it but in my beliefs of god I don't believe we were created for sexual relations between same genders, love on the other hand is a different thing as I try to love all people regardless of other issues. And I'll just add that I don't put much stock, if any, in the bible and my beliefs come from what I feel in my heart and the limited vision I have of this world from where I am currently seated.
     

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