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tolerance question

Discussion in 'Psychedelics' started by KaR, Jul 11, 2004.

  1. KaR

    KaR Member

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    when you do opiates, does your tolerance rise as 'opiates in general' or just as the class of opiate you did

    what im trying to say is, if i did morphine for like a week and then switched over to a different class of opiate....say hydrocodone, would my tolerance for hydrocodone be just as high as my morphine tolerance?

    (just an example)
     
  2. newagehippie

    newagehippie Member

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    hydrocodone isnt an opiate
     
  3. backtothelab

    backtothelab Senior Member

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    ^^^^Hyrdrocodone is an opiate.
     
  4. backtothelab

    backtothelab Senior Member

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    ^^^^Nevermind, my bad.
     
  5. EddieV1984

    EddieV1984 Member

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    OK, im confused now. Hydrocodone is in class an opiate, but chemically it is an opioid. However, im fairly certain it does both. what ive heard (prolly wrong, pleas correct me) is that you have a general opiate tolerance because all opiates/most opioids break down into codeine and morphine when metabolized. So you would have that tolerance, i would guess that you would also have a tolerance to taht particular substance.
     
  6. SoFarAway

    SoFarAway Friendly Fried Guy

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    Well if you were using morphine hydrocodone isn't going to do what you want it do to do. It might "hold you over" so you don't get withdrawl as bad or something...
     
  7. Maggie Sugar

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    Yes. Opiates which do NOT contian an opiate "antagonist" (like stadol) will all cause cross toleration. When people used to be able to get Paragoric OTC people who were dependent on other opiates (even heroin) would take it to prevent withdrawal, or make it less severe.

    If you are dependent or tolerant, stay away from agonist/antagonists like Stadol, which contain an ingredient which will put you immediately into withdrawal.

    Hydro is an opiate which was NOT taken directly from opium, but the molecular structure is identical to other opiates. Codiene, morphine and herion are taken directly from Opium. Propoxyphene, Hydrocodone, Oxycodone, Demerol and Methodone are not, they are manufactured as molecules which are identical to opiate derived opiates. (Ellis please correct me if I missed one or am wrong.)
     
  8. EllisDTripp

    EllisDTripp Green Secessionist

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    Maggie's right.

    Any of the opiate/opioid drugs cause cross tolerance with the others. And any opiate will work in alleviating withdrawl symptoms for this reason.
     
  9. Trrexx39

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    hydrocodone is an opiate. it is generic for Vicodine,percocet,norco ect
     
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