questions about the prophecies

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  1. soulrebel51

    soulrebel51 i's a folkie.

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    just what are they? and which ones are the ones that are supposedly coming true/could you please explain for me? if you want and all..
    i'm talking about the jews returning to israel, the east gate remaining sealed, etc etc... the stuff that i read about in these forums. :p :)

    please no posts saying that they are not coming true... i've heard all those already. :rolleyes:
     
  2. JesusDiedForU

    JesusDiedForU Banned

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    What is Bible prophecy?

    Christians believe that a Bible prophecy is a God-given revelation of the future. God gave His prophets, including Moses, Ezekiel, Isaiah and Jeremiah, prophecies of the future. He did this to prepare people for the future, and to show that He is the one true God and that He is all-powerful.

    A prophecy is not a prediction of the future - it is a promise about the future. God gave promises to His prophets. He told them, for example, that the Jews would be forced out of Israel, scattered worldwide, persecuted worldwide, and that they would eventually return to Israel. All of these promises have been fulfilled.

    There are different kinds of prophecies. Some prophecies are about a Messiah, which means "anointed one" or "chosen one." These are called "Messianic" prophecies. Christians believe that Jesus is the fulfillment of these prophecies. There also are "end time" prophecies. These prophecies refer to a time of war, famine and pestilence, after which a Messiah will reign over the world with justice and righteousness. Christians believe that this Messiah is also Jesus, who will return in the future.

    The Bible contains hundreds of prophecies. Some were fulfilled more than 3000 years ago. Others have been fulfilled since then. And, by our count, more than 50 have found fulfillment or partial fulfillment during the past 200 years. Many Bible prophecies have found fulfillment more than once, such as the prophecies that the Jews would have Israel as their own country. (The Jews had sovereignty over the land of Israel about 3400 years ago up until about 2700 years ago, and again in 1948).

    Based on our own personal studies, it appears that the majority of Bible prophecies have these characteristics in common:

    1. Bible prophecies involve specific places
    Bible prophecies often involve specific places. And usually that place is all or part of the Jewish homeland. Many prophecies refer specifically to Israel, Judah and Jerusalem. Judah is the southern part of the Jewish homeland. Jerusalem is Israel's most important city. It was established as the Jewish capital by King David about 3000 years ago. When prophecies involve other nations, such as Tyre, Babylon, Nineveh or Edom, it is because those nations had sought the destruction of the Jewish homeland, or the Jews, or both.

    2. Bible prophecies involve specific people
    Bible prophecies almost always involve a specific person or persons. And they usually involve the Jewish people as a group, or a Jewish person as an individual, such as a king or a Messiah. Sometimes a Bible prophecy will involve someone who is not Jewish, such as a king who will attack Israel (example: Nebuchadnezzar) or a king who will help the Jewish people (example: Cyrus). Nebuchadnezzar and Cyrus lived about 2600 years ago.

    3. Bible prophets are Jewish
    God chose to reveal His words to one group of people - the Jews. This has helped to ensure that we have one source of information for God's teachings. And, because Israel is literally in the "middle" of the world, near the convergence of the three continents of Asia, Africa and Europe, the Jews have been in a unique geographical position to influence the world with the monotheistic teachings of about one true God. The Bible, in Exodus 19:6, said the Jews were to be a "nation of priests." The Jews were to teach the rest of the world about God. And, during the past 2000 years, the Jews have accomplished this remarkable feat. Through the influence of the Hebrew scriptures, about half of the world's people have abandoned their pagan religions and now worship a monotheistic God.

    4. Bible prophecies were usually delivered in Israel
    Bible prophecies usually were delivered in the Jewish homeland of Israel or Judah. (About 2900 years ago, Israel split into two Jewish kingdoms called Judah and Israel. Today, the Jewish nation is united again and is called Israel). However, there are exceptions: Some prophecies, for example, were delivered in Babylon when the Jewish homeland had been destroyed about 2600 years ago and many Jews were taken as captives to Babylon.

    5. Bible prophecies explain why a particular event is going to happen
    Bible prophecies often include an explanation as to why a particular event is going to happen. In Micah 3:11-12, for example, the prophet Micah said about 2700 years ago that Jerusalem would be destroyed and "plowed like a field" because its leaders had turned away from God. The Babylonians destroyed Jerusalem a century later. In the year 135, the Romans destroyed Jerusalem and literally plowed part of the city.
     
  3. krin

    krin Member

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    of the prophecies that were fulfilled within the past 200 years,which of them contain SPECIFIC details and names concerning parties and such involved
     
  4. tikoo

    tikoo Senior Member

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    i think reading those prophesies is like interpreting someone's dreamand it's not easy , especially that dreamer is from long ago and of a
    very different sort of culture . one prophesy i think about sometimes
    is Revelations chapt9 . It describes tanks and helicopters and a great
    army that invades Iraq , and some Angels . I wonder if these Angels are
    Arabian Genies , rather more like tribal guardians .
     
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  6. Kharakov

    Kharakov ShadowSpawn

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    Remember one thing, only God knows which prophecies are true and which are false.
     
  7. soulrebel51

    soulrebel51 i's a folkie.

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    Here are ones that prophecy Jesus' whole Biography and also a whole chapter in psalms describing His crucifiction, these are the only ones I know chapter by chapter, the other's I'd have to look up. Atleast 17 Prophecies were fulfilled in this Psalm alone (yeah, I counted, and it could be that I missed some):

    Psalms 22

    22:1 The Suffering, Praise, and Posterity of the Messiah

    To the Chief Musician. Set to "The Deer of the Dawn." A Psalm of David.
    My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me?Why are You so far from helping Me,And from the words of My groaning? 2 O My God, I cry in the daytime, but You do not hear;And in the night season, and am not silent.
    3 But You are holy,Enthroned in the praises of Israel. 4 Our fathers trusted in You;They trusted, and You delivered them. 5 They cried to You, and were delivered;They trusted in You, and were not ashamed.
    6 But I am a worm, and no man;A reproach of men, and despised by the people. 7 All those who see Me ridicule Me;They shoot out the lip, they shake the head, saying, 8 "He trusted in the LORD, let Him rescue Him;Let Him deliver Him, since He delights in Him!"
    9 But You are He who took Me out of the womb;You made Me trust while on My mother's breasts. 10 I was cast upon You from birth.From My mother's womb You have been My God. 11 Be not far from Me,For trouble is near;For there is none to help.
    12 Many bulls have surrounded Me;Strong bulls of Bashan have encircled Me. 13 They gape at Me with their mouths,Like a raging and roaring lion.
    14 I am poured out like water,And all My bones are out of joint;My heart is like wax;It has melted within Me. 15 My strength is dried up like a potsherd,And My tongue clings to My jaws;You have brought Me to the dust of death.
    16 For dogs have surrounded Me;The congregation of the wicked has enclosed Me.They pierced My hands and My feet; 17 I can count all My bones.They look and stare at Me. 18 They divide My garments among them,And for My clothing they cast lots.
    19 But You, O LORD, do not be far from Me;O My Strength, hasten to help Me! 20 Deliver Me from the sword,My precious life from the power of the dog. 21 Save Me from the lion's mouth And from the horns of the wild oxen!
    You have answered Me.
    22 I will declare Your name to My brethren;In the midst of the assembly I will praise You. 23 You who fear the LORD, praise Him!All you descendants of Jacob, glorify Him,And fear Him, all you offspring of Israel! 24 For He has not despised nor abhorred the affliction of the afflicted;Nor has He hidden His face from Him;But when He cried to Him, He heard.
    25 My praise shall be of You in the great assembly;I will pay My vows before those who fear Him. 26 The poor shall eat and be satisfied;Those who seek Him will praise the LORD.Let your heart live forever!
    27 All the ends of the world Shall remember and turn to the LORD,And all the families of the nations Shall worship before You. 28 For the kingdom is the LORD's,And He rules over the nations.
    29 All the prosperous of the earth Shall eat and worship;All those who go down to the dust Shall bow before Him,Even he who cannot keep himself alive.
    30 A posterity shall serve Him.It will be recounted of the Lord to the next generation, 31 They will come and declare His righteousness to a people who will be born,That He has done this.


    (NKJV)

    Also, I didn't count the prophecies in here ( but it's obviously heaps!), however many they are, they've all been fulfilled. This is basicly Jesus' whole Biography:

    53:1 The Sin-Bearing Messiah

    Who has believed our report?And to whom has the arm of the LORD been revealed? 2 For He shall grow up before Him as a tender plant,And as a root out of dry ground.He has no form or comeliness;And when we see Him,There is no beauty that we should desire Him. 3 He is despised and rejected by men,A Man of sorrows and acquainted with grief.And we hid, as it were, our faces from Him;He was despised, and we did not esteem Him.
    4 Surely He has borne our griefs And carried our sorrows;Yet we esteemed Him stricken,Smitten by God, and afflicted. 5 But He was wounded for our transgressions,He was bruised for our iniquities;The chastisement for our peace was upon Him,And by His stripes we are healed. 6 All we like sheep have gone astray;We have turned, every one, to his own way;And the LORD has laid on Him the iniquity of us all.
    7 He was oppressed and He was afflicted,Yet He opened not His mouth;He was led as a lamb to the slaughter,And as a sheep before its shearers is silent,So He opened not His mouth. 8 He was taken from prison and from judgment,And who will declare His generation?For He was cut off from the land of the living;For the transgressions of My people He was stricken. 9 And they made His grave with the wicked — But with the rich at His death,Because He had done no violence,Nor was any deceit in His mouth.
    10 Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise Him;He has put Him to grief.When You make His soul an offering for sin,He shall see His seed, He shall prolong His days,And the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in His hand. 11 He shall see the labor of His soul, and be satisfied.By His knowledge My righteous Servant shall justify many,For He shall bear their iniquities. 12 Therefore I will divide Him a portion with the great,And He shall divide the spoil with the strong,Because He poured out His soul unto death,And He was numbered with the transgressors,And He bore the sin of many,And made intercession for the transgressors.


    (NKJV)



    BTW: during the seaching I also found:


    Isaiah 42


    42:1 The Servant of the LORD


    "Behold! My Servant whom I uphold,
    My Elect One in whom My soul delights!
    I have put My Spirit upon Him;
    He will bring forth justice to the Gentiles.
    2 He will not cry out, nor raise His voice,
    Nor cause His voice to be heard in the street.
    3 A bruised reed He will not break,
    And smoking flax He will not quench;
    He will bring forth justice for truth.
    4 He will not fail nor be discouraged,
    Till He has established justice in the earth;
    And the coastlands shall wait for His law."

    5 Thus says God the LORD,
    Who created the heavens and stretched them out,
    Who spread forth the earth and that which comes from it,
    Who gives breath to the people on it,
    And spirit to those who walk on it:
    6 "I, the LORD, have called You in righteousness,
    And will hold Your hand
    NKJV



    and

    Zech 9:9-10

    9 The Coming King

    "Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion!Shout, O daughter of Jerusalem!Behold, your King is coming to you;He is just and having salvation,Lowly and riding on a donkey ,A colt, the foal of a donkey . 10 I will cut off the chariot from EphraimAnd the horse from Jerusalem;The battle bow shall be cut off.He shall speak peace to the nations;His dominion shall be 'from sea to sea,And from the River to the ends of the earth.'
    (NKJV)


    Other than that, look at JD4U's links...they're more resourceful than mine, and better organized (it's not just a scripture attack but also explanation...)

    Hope you have a blessed and wonderful day (or night)! :)
     
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