ART GOES to Galleries to DIE! JOIN me on the Road NOW!

Discussion in 'Art' started by skycanvas, Nov 9, 2005.

  1. skycanvas

    skycanvas Member

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    I've been living on the road as a working artist from Texas to the West Coast; up & down again for more than 100 days. I'm living by selling my art & doing commissions. I found that my art goes to galleries to DIE. I could write a book about this. Traveling with the weather & sales. Great life! This was a dream which I tried to get others interested in which I had to do alone in order to prove it was possible & now I have done so. I just need people to join my mobile cult of crazies.

    Now, if just about anyone would like to join me it would be a pleasure. Things would be more enjoyable with more people involved too. You also need somebody to watch your back & vehicle. Partying is better 2. I have an equipped van, but you can bring your own vehicle/significant others if you want. I am presently on the lower middle coast of CA about 300 miles south of San Francisco or thereabouts.

    So if you just want to try it for a while that's cool. I would prefer other artists as I am trying to give the screw to all the hoops & rules & crap that people have to dive through in order to sell their own work on the streets. Believe me, it does work & also people that are paying for the public venues by the year are not having that much better luck according to them. I can help you out & things go better with more people working together.

    Help Me Screw the ART system.

    PS: Pls, No tweakers or needle freaks, Tks
     
  2. skycanvas

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    Hate to reply to myself, but I only have service sporadically; but the way I saw it is, unless we take our art seriously enough to strike out, not knowing where we'll land & actually depend on it for income, we will always be some hobbyist, working some sucky menial job that we hate so that we can support our 'frivolous artistic habit' and others will view us & ART as some kind of pipe-dream done only by the well-funded.

    Let's face it; we weren't born left brained & practical, or the formula would fit us just right; we were born to be experimenters. But the world has to realize that no matter how many experiments go wrong, we only have to get it right one time in order to prove success.

    So fuck the myths ingrained in us by left brained parents, teachers, social parasites & government. You can follow their ideals & die just as fucking depressed as the next person; leaving millions of bucks behind --or you can just follow your talents & dreams & do what makes you happy & be a success in your own mind.
     
  3. sleepy_ashes

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    Mmmm, comforting knowing that someone is actually doing this... a fantasy of mine for the longest time. Can you tell me a bit more about your time spent? Like how do you get your name out to do commissions, where do you sell your art, whats your connections to the outside world, all that jazz.

    Cool.
     
  4. skycanvas

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    I approach people individually, usually businesses want commissions, but sometimes people. It's the antipathis of not going to the supermarket 'hungry' because you will buy more than you need.

    If you stick yourself out there & simply have to make money off of your work & people see you doing it, they will buy. I've seen it done all over Europe & these friends are NOT starving.
     
  5. Nathan11

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    Yer a righteous soul, man.
    Keep it up, brotha!
     
  6. skycanvas

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    Guerilla-Style ~ @ Where the Streets Have No Name!
    I envision any kind of Art will do, but picking up at a moment's notice is often the key to guerilla-warfare. Then reappearing somewhere else. He that fights & runs away, lives to fight another day. This country wouldn't have such high unemplyment if everyone could market their individual talent without having to get bonafied, certified, FDA-a-fied; scrutinized, hoopified, stupified, purified & gone for a ride. They take fucking taxes out before you've every made any money when you have to pay to get into THEIR venue, art show etc. That's putrified crap.


    Musicians (audio-artists) also do well at this. A guitar is better than a huge setup & acoustic is better that electric. Any art that keeps it light & simple & can quickly appear & disappear can teach civil disobedience & art appreciation to this culture-starved country.

    It's done all over Europe & Asia. If I can make something I can sell it on the street. That is the Constitution as far as I am concerned. "Life, liberty & the pursuit of happiness." All these little civil codes are steeped in bullshit & deserve to be disobeyed as much as possible. Half of these people with startups & fucking galleries are floundering anyway. 80% of all restaurants fail within the first two years. It's a tax write off & they are just jealous to see you or I sell anything on the street.

    This is one reason why the economy has gone to shit. Sending profits to maufacturing abroad increasing the trade deficit & tripping up home-made products & stifling our own creativity & workers. REBEL!

    Liberte, Fraternite et Equalite!!!
     
  7. Spyder

    Spyder La dah de dah

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    get a job, do you think degas got famous from being a hippy? no! and at the end of the day, the way to get recognised and taken seriously is through gallerys like it or not

    cos otherwise your just another random yahoo

    god that aint no revolution sheesh
     
  8. Keramptha

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    actually it is a revoloution... i play msuic in the streets for money and travelling. i get enough moeny ina day to pay rent on a flat..but do i?! fuck no! music/artis about espression, movement... how can you say you're an artist if you dont put it in the real world? How do i explain... its like a cricus act but not exploitative..the circus comes to town, robs you of youre money..and shows you some spectacular feats... selling art, music o the streets is the same kind of thing, except people can choose whether to pay you, or whether they enjoy the art... people who busk, travel, sell art for a living are syaing to people... i dont want to steal your money..you're free to choose just as much as i am free to choose...and atthe same time.. look what my freedom of choice has produced...this marvellous skill...i invite you to enjoy it with me...i invite you to celbrate your life and follow your dreams.. people are scared of lack of security...money in the bank, prestiege, honour...status.. what these people are syaing is.. fuck that...everytihng we do is right now...it all has an end...i just want to share this with you. right now, out here, on the faceless corporate, street. people look in art galleries..and thats great. but art is everywhere...on a lonley dirt track, or a walk over a mountain. It IS about breaking bounderies... its saying.. there isnt a time and place for art...its right now... out here... in front of your eyes... and theres nowhere more appropriate than now to enjoy it.


    on a personal note...its about waking up, dancing, laughing, not being afraid of life. wherever you might find it. there are no rules to where you find joy. and street artists symbolise that. they want to bring colour or liveliness to your world. theyre not bums, prostitures or drug addicts... theyre saying, this is what i do, and i do it for youuuuu!!! i dont want to make a million dollars..i dont want a famous name, i dont want to intimidate you or compete with you. i just want to help you have a good day, free from fear.

    well. thats what i do it for. and who cares what people think... i enjoy being in the midst of sorrow and shining my light and saying it doesnt matter what the rules are...i'll break every one on purpose just to lighten up your day...and all i ask is that i can have another day to break them in.
     
  9. sunshine'sbutterfly

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    Can i just say Keramptha that that was beautifully said
     
  10. skycanvas

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    This is called 'HIPFORUMS' dude. This is all about Hippies. Hip Forums > Hip Arts and Culture > Art > ART GOES to Galleries to DIE! JOIN me on the Road NOW! >

    Nascar Forum begins with an 'N'. And get me a cold Bud while you're up!
     
  11. skycanvas

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    Dude, wallpaper is cheap, images are free & people don't give a crap about mass replication of visual design since they are bombarded with it constantly.

    So you buy art? Or do you just look at it?!


    What's you're job & why are you lurking on this site if you dislike hippies & their notions about improving the world --Right, I should get one of those gov'ment jobs where you get all the paid holidays & vacation days & retirement & you don't have to work!

    -Hook, Line & Sinker
     
  12. skycanvas

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    She said you're strange, but don't change, so I let her" -Neil Young
     
  13. Spyder

    Spyder La dah de dah

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    blahh blaah blaaah

    couple of things, fine i take it back and im sorry, if thats the type of life you want to live thats fine by me

    dont get me wrong im far from being an art nazi, i just think gallerys are a good way of showing art, fair plays they may appear a bit stuffy to the general public, however art unfortunatly has the pain of being mainly consumed by toffs. Freedom of expression is the way to go i agree. Just thinking galleries art as bad as you make out

    secondly, i dont hate hippies (for those of you who suggested i did) i never said that i did, and yes thank you i do know its the HIPforums sheesh, anyway, my point is being that i just dont see many travellers who end up as famous artists, maybe thats just me being uneducated about them, so please set me straight on the subject

    however i just cant agree that art goes to galleries to die, seems very silly thing to say if you ask me, picasso's art isnt dead is it?

    sorry if i offended anyone with my previous post, i can see it was very jaggedly said.

    appologies, but unfortunately capitolism has been awfully successful in getting art out there, britains art collection would be half way around the world if it wasent for rich people buying art to keep it in the country so that people can view it. it works for music too, i mean would hendrix, the greatful dead or any other band be massively famous if it wernt for the cogs of the capitolist system?

    (also, im not a supporter of the capitolist system, and i realise that there are other ways to run it, but in the current society, things like big record companys and art galleries are merely things that accompany it, and only in a big reshuffle of society would that change...but thats a totally different subject)
     
  14. Dandelion_Blood

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    Actually the way skycanvas is a new way of getting art known and.. artists have to have a kinda persona that they project onto people... - thats a fact (look at artists like Gilbert and George, Jeff Koon, Tracey Emin, Salvador Dali... they've all got something different about them. So maybe they need a hippy in the mix? Being a bit odd and exentric does the buisness! Travelling Artist, selling and working for others is just that a excentric hippy thing, how many people do you know the honestly continue successfully to do so. Getting your art around the country is good too, different places, a random name mentioned in lots of different places means.. your getting about so to speak and that means if art critics hear your name a few times from a few different places they have to stand up and take note.
     
  15. arlia

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    hey dude i wanna be a travelling artist!
    :)
    i get itchy fett y know, i cant stay in one part for too long i get frustrated, thats why i not gone to uni, the four walls would confine me!
    :-/ campus doesnt inspire me very much!
    glad to here someone has the guts to do it, perhaps we will mneet in a random place someday!
     
  16. Keramptha

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    spyder you're right that you don't often see the travelling type soar to international fame. But in my experience, the best artists are underground/unknown.. so to speak. You can take a course in art or music at college, and from that make the type of stuff that will sell, will be accepted, or 'makes sense'... but other artists, like to break standards, codes, and really create... as in, they learn things to help develop their reason. and i dont think many good artists would say they do it for the money or prestiege!

    ive learnt classical music.. that was very formal and structured...i could have continued to become a good conventional classical player. But i've learnt the best tunes, and had the most fun...in pubs, peoples homes, and festivals.

    I could probably exploit what i do and make myself into a product that would sell to the masses... but that doesnt SAY anything.. people who have a talent imo, should honistly follow their heart, wherever that takes them.. and if that takes them away from art galleries, if they personally 'have it against' art galleries.. then thats part of their creativity speaking...and it says much more.....than the guy who doesnt believe theres any worth in doing something that doesnt get you accredited.

    validation only has to come from yourself. and thats what art is. a being true to yourself no matter what. right bah blah b;ah
     
  17. skycanvas

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    That's cool, we'll smoke a bud sometime. Maybe I was reacting a bit too suddenly. Anyway is cool, this is just what I'm trying because everybody said it couldn't be done since I was born. I guess if everyone is going up the path, I usually take the cliff.

    There are good & bad points to this business of art/rebellion, but generally if you bring somebody with you, you won't be lonely. Siginificant others are super. Dogs are great, or if you are tight with somebody. You need somebody to watch your back.

    I'm learning that staying in one place for a while is better than traveling contually. It gives you a little more rest & also you network & hook up with local people a lot more & sometimes get more done.

    It's all to shake ourselves out of the rut of feeling like you cannot take the big leap out dans la rue (into the streets) & sell your shit. It's the fucking AmeriKinn way. I don't understand why they make it so damn hard & everybody is so fucking scared. It's a hell of a lot better than panhandling. You're doing a goddamed service to mankind. People here are pretty tight with their denaro, true, like you have to turn people upside down to get them to buy, but that is true even of the Sunday Artists on the Beach.

    Frankly I hit the West coast because it is so gorgeous. But I knew they were way behind the East Coast in Folk/Street/Performance & permissiveness thereof. If the weather was better I'd go to the more tolerant places, especially the East. Why try to butt a hole in the damn, although I am a Ram?

    Listen to this tip: Little towns seem better than middle sized ones. But really big towns are terrific because they can't watch everybody.
     
  18. Spyder

    Spyder La dah de dah

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    yeah i do appologise, i was very jagged with what i originally said!

    and i've been set right now! oh and Keramptha you expressed that post lovely! thank you all

    good luck with your art work, i'd much like to see some of it soemtime if thats ok?
     
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    I'm forced to be on a public computer & these half-hours time out really quick. So maybe I didn't read it over too well.

    You're OK man. Stay opinionated! Rock on!
     
  20. Keramptha

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    ahhhhhh
     
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