so im sensitive to amphetamines, and im wondering if that means i'll be bad with tryptamines and phenethylamines too. i've almost died on ritalin, put my body through hell on straight amphetamine, and didn't sleep for a week after doing ex. what worries me is the close relation in the chemical structures of all these types of drugs, and the reports of over-stimulation ive read about. most likely i'll be getting some mescaline, doc, or 2ce in the near future. i'm also interested in 2ci, 2ct2, 5meodmt, and 4acodipt. is anyone experienced enough with these drugs to tell me about the side effects? and do any of these drugs have speedlike qualitys? because if they do, im strrrraight. i try to stay away from anything thats gonna make my heart explode. i like uppers, but my body just cant handle most of them. just to inform you of my drug background, im experienced with dxm, mushrooms, and oxycontin, if that helps. any feedback would be appreciated.
Most common side effects are nausea and muscle cramps, especially on 2C-E and -I. Stomach problems can be solved with some fresh ginger. Most of the phenethylamines have speed-like effects, but this doesn´t have to mean, that you react sensitive to them, because not every effect of this kind is caused on the same receptors. Start with low doses, e.g. for 2C-E with 8-10 mgs. Especially 2C-I and 4Aco-DiPT could be a proble for you - they´re very fast. Stay away from the 2C-T-x group first, you need quite a lot of experience for this substances.
I'm in roughly the same boat. Not *as* sensitive, but I'm much more sensitive than the average joe. Adderall keeps me up for a few days. I'd suggest avoiding DOx (except maybe DOC). DOI kept me up until i ate valium. One quick fix I've found to work is to smoke some shisha (what goes ina hookah) if you get overstimulated. It relaxes me like non-other, and works faster than pills. Tastes better too !
thanks for the info flow. im fine with fast come-up, muscle cramps, nausea, and body load, because ive been through it all before on dxm. your right about different drugs working on different receptors, because i have a great time on cocaine, but my heart pounds and palpitates and my body feels like its about to snap on any kind of amphetamines. and you hit the nail on the head about 2c-i and 4-aco-dipt because ive researched them both and those are the two drugs im mainly concerned about from the stimulation standpoint. ive read they are very speedy- which isnt a bad thing, as long as my body can handle it. my reaction to ecstacy seems to be more related to serotonin depletion, so that brings up some concerns about lsa/lsd, but i could be wrong. the thing with lsa and lsd though, is that i didnt react to either of them when i did them =/. so yeah, the way my body works is a total mystery to me lol. do you think i would have the same reaction to mescaline as i do on amphetamines, and do you know if it utilizes the same receptors as amphetamines? because i know mescaline is closely related to amphetamines and that it occasionally used to be sold as speed on the streets decades ago. what makes me feel comfortable about the RC's im interested in, is that its widely believed that the toxic doses of most of them (definitely not all) are rediculous amounts, up to a hundred times the active psychidelic dose. well, get back to me when you get a chance, feel free to pm or im me. btw do you know much about doc? ive heard its really good.
Never tried DOC so far... Be careful, because its extremely long lasting. Maybe try 2C-C first, it´s almost the same stuff (DOC is sometimes also called 3C-C), but much shorter in action.
Hmm. I've heard 2C-C is very subtle, while I've heard DOC is nearly, if not as, amazing as LSD. They're both a bit on the expensive side for me though. DOC because it's so potent, the minimum amount is so many doses, (while cheap per dose) it's a bit much. 2C-C because, well... doses seem to be freaking huge compared to others. I've seen plenty of reports even at 50mg with only mild effects.
To me, DOC is as good, if not better than LSD. People agree on erowid too. 2cc if much more subtle... but I like it. 15mg clouds my thinking ability, and 70mg makes me get pretty messed up. If you've tried an eigth of shrooms and done okay, or have a good amount of experience with psychs, DOC and 2cc shouldn't provide too many problems.
I loved DOC, it was fucking amazing, I am very sensitive to stimulants and I had a really good time, only slight problems but that is due to my various disorders and health problems. You should be fine and have a fucking great time on DOC.
so, ill get the same effects as doc from 2c-c, except it will be a more subtle, short-lived trip? i mean, i wanna trip balls, i just dont wanna be trippin for a whole day. if 2c-c is gonna do the same thing for me as doc, and just not last as long id rather do 2c-c. but if its gonna be a weak trip, ill do doc and ride it out. does anyone have first hand experience on the length of doc? come-up, plateau, and after effect lengths specifically, and also if effects come in waves (like lsd). if a big part of the length is after effects, i can deal with it, but i dont want a 10 hour peak lol.
im really sensitive to amphetamines and anything like them... anything that keeps me awake (like coke). so much so that i probably will never have a desire to try meth or E. even things like LSD make me stay awake like 5 hours longer than my friends.
