Help, pleas I need help on a hard and weird thing.

Discussion in 'Coming Out and Confused!' started by lykketrollet, Nov 6, 2005.

  1. lykketrollet

    lykketrollet Member

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    Omg, I dont know how to start, but well, I kinda had a tread about it before, (couple of months back) under another topic, but well only one responded. And I really could need some advices on what to do, or just someone to talk to.
    .. Ok, here it is, my best friend got together with this guy for soon a year ago. In the summer holliday they invited me up to my freinds house, cause her parents where on vacation and they should watch their house.
    Well, my friend and her boyfriend have a master/slave relationship, and their intensions were to get me as another slave. Kinda sick, and had it been about it on TV or something I haden't been able to see the problem, just say no, right. But this is a friend I have been freinds with since the age of four. I said no thou.
    But for a couple of weeks ago, It started again, I have been kinda deppressed lately. And she just started to sort of nag about it all the time, so I said yes to meet them. I shouldn't I know I shouldn't, I said yes for now, and I just feel awful cause it all just feels wrong. And well, the reason for me to put this under the gay topic, I have felt atracted to girls in a long time, but i don't know hove I feel anymore, one day I'm atracted to a guy the other one to a girl. But I can't see myself having sex with a guy, which get me even more confused.

    Now I have done something stupid and everything is turned up side down in my head and I don't know what to do or who I should talk to. Pleas, it al feels weird, I need someone to talk to, someone I don't have to hide for. Or just some advices on what to do.
     
  2. hipunk

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    What your friend is doing is wrong. Being in a S&M relationship isn't wrong. (And I don't want to be the one to say it is sick!) But trying to force a 14 year old girl to be a sex slave is just plain wrong, wrong, wrong.

    You told her yes, because she was nagging you. Now, you can change your mind. Say NO.

    I wonder -Is her 'master' forcing her to nag you? She is too young to be in an S&M relationship, too. No doubt she is as confused as you are. You may not be able to help her. But you can help yourself. Say no and walk away. Don't even talk to her again. You can't be friends with someone like that, because that is not friendship.

    If you must talk to her, then walk away each and every time that she brings up the subject of you being her masters slave. Just walk away.

    You need to move on, and find other friends. There are people who will treat you like a real friend, not a piece of meat.



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  3. Disarm

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    you might wanna make sure she's not trying really hard for you to be a part of it cause she doesnt like it herself and wants someone supportive to be there with her so she feels better about it or something..
     
  4. Dingy

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    When you said something hard and weird, i thought you were an ex of mine!

    But since youre only 14, i say stay away from hard and weird things, specially if you dont enjoy them.

    If you like the chick, maybe you should get her to dump him and hook up with you?
     
  5. SageDreamer

    SageDreamer Senior Member

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    If you're not happy wtih it, don't do it!!

    An unwilling slave is probably not a good slave or a happy slave. If she's your friend, she's not going to force you into a situation in which you are clearly uncomfortable.
     
  6. MattInVegas

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    Little Sister? YOU are TOO G&* D%^& YOUNG to get involved with that crap!
    Please don't. TRUST your parents to advise you. Please?
     
  7. kat_bb3

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    Girl you are too young to start your sexual life doing something your forced to do and don't even enjoy. Turn and walk away, do it for yourself.
     
  8. lykketrollet

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    Thanks guys, thanks for the advices :)
    But this is so hard for me, this friend of mine, she wouldn't leave him for anything. But I feel like I'm letting her down if I say no now, shes so easy to hurt. I doesn't wanne hurt her cause she has just allways been there, I've been friends with her for ages.
    I met her today, and I just couldn't say that I can't be a part of this longer, it would break her apart. I don't know what to do anymore.:(
     
  9. hipunk

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    lykketrollet,

    Believe me, I can understand your frustration and confusion. You are concerned about your friend. We would all be lucky to have a friend like you. We all need somebody to stand beside us when the going gets tuff.

    But having sex with your friend and her master will not help your friend. Please let me explain.

    When I was your age I had a friend, just like your friend. His name was Mark. Mark had a lover who was into Slave & Master. Mark's Master would do awful things to him. The sex would always hurt. But Mark loved him and would never leave him. Mark would do anything for him. Even when he told Mark that he was a worthless piece of shit. Mark was so easy to hurt.

    Mark's Master was an older man, an adult. I can not call this man Mark's lover. He never loved Mark. He used Mark. We have a name for that in America: Sexual Predator. Mark's Master would try to get all of Marks friends involved, other people who he could hurt. When Marks friends refused, the Master would punish Mark, or make Mark leave his friends. That's how I know about your friend. The Master would make Mark go out into the streets and find other victims.

    Here is what a Master Sexual Predator will do:

    Isolate your friends.
    Isolate your family.
    Say you are worthless.
    Embarrass you and debase you.
    Say you deserve it.
    Make you find other victims.
    Dump you like trash.
    You will be alone.

    Mark ran away from home to live with his Master. But after a time, he could no longer stand the hurt inflicted by the Master. He could no longer go out into the night to find fresh victims. He could no longer stand the loneliness of being with someone who could not love him and treated him like a dog. But he still would not leave. It was the Master that dismissed him. Kicked him out. Mark was alone. Friendless. He tried to go back home. And he lived at home for 3 months. Mark told another friend that he would never be able to find somebody to love him. I hope you never learn the sadness I feel when I type those words.

    Mark jumped off a train bridge the next day. He was only 16 years old. I will never forgive myself because I did nothing to help him get away from that monster who was his "Master".

    Nothing good came from Marks relationship with this Master / Lover. Except maybe, now, when I can tell you about his life.

    You have a chance to save yourself and your friend. Your friend is in danger. Tell your parents what is going on between her and her master. Tell your parents that she is trying to get you involved in an S & M relationship. If you have to, have your parents read these messages at this board. That is the only way you will be able to help her. Otherwise, you are also putting yourself in danger.


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  10. makno

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    i cant imagine such foolishness ....poison them both and steal their money n drugs ....fucking scum .
     
  11. SageDreamer

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    Lykketrollet, you can say "no" to your friend and her master. It may not be easy, and it may not be pleasant. However, you can do it. You owe it to her, and you owe it to yourself. You can be strong enough to do this.
     
  12. lykketrollet

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    omg, He isn't just like that, hipunk. But well he does belive that slaves deserve to be punished. Like my friend, he whipped her 600 times because she had forgotten to write in her slave diary for a hole month. He had to spitt the punishment uppin three parts cause her body couldnt handle more than 250.
    And, I guess he would wan't me to go out and get him some more slaves, or victimes..

    He says he has seen it in my personality that I'm undominant and that I just keep it down for some kind of reason. Well, I don't identifie myself with that at all... it all just feels so damn weird and fucked up...
     
  13. hipunk

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    Sexual predators may seem very charming or very cool or very intelegent. But they are always very convincing. You would be surprised what starts out as fun and ends up as 600 lashes or worse. Saying that you are undominate is just a cheep mind game.

    You knew the answer before you posted here: it is damn weird and fucked up. The only question is, what are you going to do about it?

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    this is all so fucked up, my god. 600 lashes!? and you say he's not like the guy hippunk described?? the whole thing is fucking insane. my advice is to tell an adult that will do something about it, get your friend out of this relationship and also keep you from getting involved. your friend is probably brainwashed being in that kind of environment. god, it's so sad.
     
  16. Dingy

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    Its time to make a grown up decision, are you gonna go through your life being a victim or not?

    Being one is often the easy way, but if you go down that road, chances are your whole life will be hard and weird.

    Your friend seem to be the self destructive kind, and you might be the only one that can help her.

    Now, I dont mind a few sex games, roleplaying, spanking, whatever turns you on.
    I kinda enjoy dominating and stuff too, but 600 lashes sound fucking insane, if someones turn on is to really hurt people, they probably need a lot of therapy. Also a sex game usually ends after a few hours tops, living in the master/slave roles in an extended period of time sounds very damaging.

    Not to mention its illegal to have sex with someone who is only 14 years old, im sure the police would like to know about it.

    Im not gonna say another word about this.
     
  17. Green

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    I agree, 600 lashes is insane. Do you know how bad that would hurt? Its not just a sex game, and her "master" does not just want to fool around with you. He wants to seriously hurt you, for whatever reason.

    Just tell your friend your not comfortable with the idea, and not to take it personally. More importantly, try to get your friend away from this guy.
     
  18. SageDreamer

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    There's a reason for that. It is so damn weird and fucked up. Don't get involved with situations like that. You are doing your friend no favor by getting mixed up in such a situation.

    Your friend needs someone who can think clearly and respects herself.
     
  19. white ginger

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    Yes.
    The question is, lykketrollet, will you offer your strength to her, or your weakness?
     
  20. SadieRain

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    yeah dude master/slave shit i wud think wud only be fun if YOU want to do it not if someone else wants u to its not like its normal sex u give up all control to someone u dont even no (i assume u dont no her bf very well) u need to stop worrying about her feelings and start worrying abour your well being
     

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