Words are currently essential to show the way (I stated before this is what I thought the purpose of scripture is), but they seem pretty useless to do anything else. If words were so great a medium then surely the world would be enlightened. But it's not. By looking at the state of the world, the words of the saints and gurus have only effected a tiny majority. The large majority have rejected or misunderstood them. I believe the Buddha taught his disciples the way of enlightenment, and what enlightenment produced. But he never tried to describe what enlightenment IS. Unlike most religions which try to describe source/enlightenment/God etc. I believe the spirit/source etc is found in simplicity. Thomas Aquinas was almost finished writing his huge summery of Theology when he had a mystical vision. After the vision he didn't finish the summery because he said is was "straw" compared to what he just saw.
Whatever you're trying to say, you've got to use the means of communication that are available and commonly understood. Spoken words, written words, mathematics, and visual images are the language of the material world that we inhabit.
Yes words are perfect for describing the world of duality. I have said nothing different. It's when you use them to describe that which isnt based in duality. Try to describe Bliss and your'll get a hundred different answers. Much better to describe how its attained and just rest within it.
William S. Burroughs described 'the word' (somewhat satirically) as a parasitic virus which has taken over our brains. Humans, he says, have lost the option of mental silence. I agree with him on that 100%. I would go further, and say that in effect, one of the main goals of yoga and meditation practice is to recover that lost silence. It is not so easy. We have to use words they are the counters with which we think and communicte, all our ideas about ourselves and the cosmos are nothing more than verbal constructions. That is the nature of human beings - we get caught up in words - lost in them, until we have totally lost sight of reality. To seek to describe That which is beyond description is obviously a waste of time, and can only lead to delusion if others than think one's description is all-encompassing. That's what seems to have happened with religious dogmas etc. It's as though they believe that truth will only inhabit a fixed form of words, a set formulation. It's all miles away from any reality.
But the Muslims are militant and took over Pakistan and Afghanistan through violence. Hindus must preserve their history and culture before secular society and Jihadis ruin it. The Hindu Kush mountains in Upa-Ghana-Sthan are named "Hindu Killer mountains" from the muslims who overthrew the Afghan Hindu Dogra dynasty. Hindus have every right to defend their religion at all costs, the missionaries prey on poor Hindus' misfortunes, and the Muslims only look out for themselves.
Please dont say that the muslims are terrorists. The terrorists are muslims. And byt the way, there are more than enough rabid hindu extremists also. Would you like to Hinduism to be abelled by their actions?
Yes, but the Mughals invaded from Mongolia, they converted to Islam from settling in Muslim dominated areas of the greater Mongol empire. Pakistani name, Khan = cognate to the Mongolian Khan eg. Genghis Khan. The Muslims invaded and settled in the Indus valley, present day Pakistan. Muslims also overran afghanistan, which was once ruled by the Afghan Hindu Dogra kingdom and the Buddhist kingdom of Ghandara. Everything from Tamil, Karnatak, and Kerala to the Indus and Afghanistan (Upa-Ghana-Sthan) was once under Hindu rule. I say the Hindus militarize before Muslims out populate and therefore conquer other areas, West Bengal adjacent to Bangladesh is currently under threat, and the city of Calcutta, the city of my patron (or matron?) goddess is the capital of WB.
Are you sure that God didn't cause faiths in the one God to over-run polytheistic faiths to teach them that it is one God controlling all- even the subsidiary Avatars such as Kali? Anyway, as destruction is a major part of your Goddess's image, should you not welcome all destruction as a gift from her, even your own destruction?
I don't know - 'at all costs' sounds a bit heavy to me. Esp. Given the fact that both sides have neuclear weapons. If it came to a neuclear war, I doubt much of hiunduism or islam would be left afterwards, more likely just an uninhabitable wasteland.
It's sad that these fanatics imagine that ideology is more important than human life. But thats the nature of fanaticism/fundamentalism. They don't care much for the world or for people, other than their own 'tribe' 'co-religionists' or whatever.
The moment a Hindu takes to violence, he is no longer a Hindu. If Hindus unite to fight against islam or christianity, there will be no Hindus left.
Absolutely. Also a Christian that takes to violence is no Christian A Muslim that takes to violence is no Muslim.
Xianity and Islam overrunning the world through violence was not needed. I certainly don't think 'God' was behind the murder of the pagan Saxons by the Catholic Charlemagne, or the slaughter of the Afghan Hindus by the Muslims, to believe so is to claim God has more regard for one faith over another. Genghis Khan often claimed it was his opponents' impiety and Heaven's retribution that his enemies were getting slaughtered by him. I should not feel grateful that Islam poses a huge threat to the preservation of Hindu West Bengal. The idea of the Absolute being one is presented in the Upanishads, literally the "secret teachings." Though to say that Hinduism is not polytheistic is quite debatable. The Egyptians are generally regarded as being polytheists, but there were schools of thought in Egyptian religion that were "monistic", they believed in one Supreme Power known as "Netjer" lit, "Deity" of which the gods parts of this one transcendent absolute, not unlike the Vedanta and its teachings in the Upanishads. The denial of polytheism is more of a desire to appease Xians and Muslims by saying "see we are not really so backward." As if Christians or Muslims really care. To them, non-Abrahamic faiths are all products of Satan, and all non-Abrahamic religionists are under the sway of the devil. Hinduism is not Christianity, Hinduism is not Islam. I'm not trying to be esoteric or profound, it is a distinct religion and it should not compromise itself to appease the desert faiths which have no regard for its preservation and would just as soon see it die and all of its followers converted.
I think the problem is that you're a fundamentalist so you think all others are too. How do you know what Christians and Muslims want? It appears that your ideas amount to only is what is represented by other fundamentalist idiots. In fact, both these religions have teachings of peace at their heart. If this is not understood clearly by so-called followers, they're only in the same position of ignorance as Hindus who likewise have no comprehension of their own religion. They just believe what has been drilled into them by other ignorant but power/influence wielding persons, who often have an agenda which is nothing to do with any form of spirituality, but is actually just a cover for cultural conservatism and a mis-placed political idea. But really it's a pointless argument. If India were to be taken over by Hindu fanatics who then launched a war on Pakistan, mutual neuclear destruction would be the inevitable result. In that scenario are no winners. Islam would survive in other parts of the world, but would Hinduism? Another strategy might be to ban Christian or Muslim missionaries from India. Thus, it would be turned into an authoritarian facist state. Which no doubt would suit the whole fundamentalist mind-set.