can someone diagnose this plant disorder?!!

i would like to know if anyone has an idea of what affliction might be attacking one of my beauties. it seems as though either some micronutrient is defficient or i have some insect preying on the top leaves of my babay. the plant is green and robust enough looking yet has some disfigurement in the upper leaves. looks as though they are crinkling and contorting in an odd way. also i noticed some discoloration in the lower leaves that may point to a defficiency some reddish bronzing and the discoloured part is hanging limp from the rest of the leaf. the plant looks healthy overall though. would someone please give me some expert hypothesis on wha my be ailing it. this would be much appreiciated. thanks
reapermadness

 

Sounds more like overwatering, or even overfertilizing.Do you let the soil dry out good between waterings? If not may i suggest lifting the pot to see how heavy or light it is. Pottong soil is light by itself but gets real heavy when it has water in it. Wait until it gets light before each watering, you'll be much better off.

if it is overfertilizing you need to flush it with 2 gallons of water per gallon of soil, there is a way to use diluted micronutrients but geck or mean will have to tell you that- i use plain old water but its probly not as good.The diluted nutes relase the salt compounds better.

 

I was also thinking that the disfigurement in the upper leaves was caused by over-watering........and the coloring of the botom leaves might be caused by too much phosphor,magnesium or kalium but that's just a wild guess,can you take a photo and get that online?

 

If you have been overwatering, a deficency is likely, not an over abundance.

The distorted top leaves sound like too much Ph one way or the other.

Transplanting into a considerably larger pot is the easiest correction.

otherwise, mix 1/2 cup white vinegar in a gallon of water and over water two more times, Once with the vinegar water to leach chemicals out of the soil, and a couple hours later with distilled water to clean out the acetates that have formed.
Let it dry completely, and then feed with a balanced fert.

 

I would do as Geck recommended and flush out as it sounds to me like you have a micro/major nute lockout underway.Ca/B defeciencies cause new growth to become twisted and distorted. The lower yellowing in leaves could very well be a Mg deficiency as the bronze colored necrosis is a tall tale sign as well as leaf tips curling up.Check your ph as geck suggested because acidic soils can cause all the symptoms you mentioned from locking them out for plant uptake!

 

i am aware that overfertilizing can cause toxic salt buildup and lock out nutrients, however, if it is over-watering that is my problem i am almost powerless against the forces of nature as i am an outdoor grower and have to bow at the whims of mother nature. i try to maintain a regular watering cycles (once a week) with hydroponic fertilizers containing all the macro/micro nutes that my babies should need. The soil in the surrounding area of the plants does tend to be wet and ultra rich as it is lencircled by many evergreens which have been dropping their leaves on the forest floor for many years, i realize that the environment i chose might have been a tad too wet for them and should possibly move to a little dryer local next year, but as for now, is it still a good idea to flush the plants with water and a small amount of nutes if they are outdoor? or am i asking for a fungas and mold attack?

 

he who makes a beast of himself gets rid of the burden of being a man
-hunter .s. thompson

 

Firstly I'd forget the fertilizers go organic I've had loads of problems with chemicals Ph being to high/low wrong E.C. all kinds of shit try www.biobizz.com - all organic the best way to go.


Jon..

 

Outdoors with a good soil mix- black dirt from under oak trees( minus the leaves on top) mixed with horseshit (free in almost any one horse town) is sufficent.

Even just red dirt has most of what a plant would need- You should only use ferts if you see the plants yellowing, or a problem- very sparsly- depending on your natural soil. With good natural soil you really only need ferts two or three times a year.

try marine cuisine by ocean forest ,it is a long term soil managment fert made from organics. Mix that in and all you have to do is water for the rest of the season, and but some high phosphorus bat guano in when they start to bud- but only like once a month with the batshit.

For the moist soil you can try building a mound to grow in, elevate your plants away from the wetness.I have heard of people doing this in florida swampland- it should work.

 

it seems people are pretty one sided here when it comes to growing, so far everyone i talk to hear swears by ogranics and im not saying that organics do not work fr all of you. it seems that i just happen to have been influenced in my area by people who tend to grow with chemical ferts as opposed to using organice soil ammendmants. I am not one to argue for no reason, after all i did post looking for good advice and i got it, although i am still not sure about what to do exactly if i think flushing anytime in the next few days may result in fuingus or mold attacks becuase of all of the moisture plus any that is already excessed. I do not usually ahev problems like this i might note, actually not ever. i have had nutrient imbalances and deficiencies in the past, as has most growers ranging from novice to expert, but i have never had a problem with phosphorus, if indeed that is what the problem is. I probably will experiment with ogranics during my next crop as a direct result of some of the things i have heard here. so be happy, you already made a difference, but i still stand by my high ec, hard to manage the ph of, toxic salt building chemicals, i am usually pretty good at discerning the proper macro/micro levels for the different stages of growth, depending on species, but i think the already rich soil of the area, along with my store bought schultz moisture lock and multicote soil, and excess moitsure levels has created a challenge this season that i wasn't quite ready for, already this year i have had to become more proficient as there seems to have been more problems with the mobile nutes this year than i have had in past crops, none the less, if i can manage to correct the lock out of nutes in those few babies, than i can have a large and potent yield none the less.
thanks again guys!

 

I have honestly never heard of over watering causing the multiple symptoms you described,I would check the the soil your in for extreme acidity as that make sense to the micro/major nute probs you desribed!I promise I wont try and convence you to go organic,but organics has alot better pure smokability!