The Daily Show on a Michael Moore Film

now this is the REAL propaganda the government would like you to see.

 

What are you referring to Mui?

 

Damn straight Mui! You're right.



So, is Mike Wilson, (the director,) a conservative republican? because that would make a lot of sense, ya know, seeing bush fail and all.

 

How do you get slapped in the face with facts and call it propeganda?

 

The american dream burned down three years ago according to fear and loathing in las vegas. And i think Hunter S. Thompson can do a better job at anything than that dude.
Did you watch the daily show, they were ripping on him the entire time, like he couldn't find where the studio was, then went in the wrong direction, and then Samantha Bee (the piece's author) said that it was no wonder, tracking down the ellusive and camera shy Micheal Moore, while he was in the backround waiting for a bus.

As for Micheal Moore being rich, well, he had true blue-collar backrounds, he worked his ass off for 35 years, and then made some brilliant movies (roger and me and canadian bacon are in my top 10 all time favorites.)

 

Well, it's all propaganda. I am sure this movie coming out will be every bit as much propaganda as Fahrenheit 9/11.

But what is propaganda anyway? It's simply one person's partisan view, presented to others in an attempt to sway their opinion - that's all.

I do plan on seeing the movie when it comes out. Am I going to believe everything I see and hear? Fuck no!

Only really stupid people believe everything they see in a documentary, be it a documentary by Michael Moore, or someone on the far opposite end of the spectrum.

It's kind of funny how both extreme liberals and extreme conservatives are often blinded by their narrow-minded, one-track mindset. They don't want to see or hear anything unless it conforms to their beliefs.

Conservatives were bashing "911" without seeing it, just as the liberals are bashing Michael Moore Hates America without seeing it.

Hypocrisy on both sides. Idiocy on both sides. That's why I hate them both.

 

I am pretty sure that she is not a right-winger, or a conservative, but rather a Libertarian like myself who has their own views - not views that necessarily conform to the right or the left?

If someone doesn't like Moore, why does that automatically make them a conservative? In case you don't know, there are liberals who don't like Moore either.

I don't like Moore as a person. But I do like some of his work, including Fahrenheit 9/11, in which I gave a favorable review.

When Moore donates his cumulative earnings (or at least 50%) from Fahrenheit 9/11 to the poverty-stricken people of Flint, Michigan (who he is apparantly so concerned about), or some other noble cause, then my opinion of him will change.

I do respect Moore for presenting a side of the story that the media won't cover. I also feel that he is a very talented director. But that's as far as my praise for Moore will go.

Why do you feel that people have to LOVE Michael Moore to be worthy of the "liberal" label that you apparantly hold in such high regard? Why do you feel so compelled to label people and pass judgment on them for expressing views which might differ from you own? How do you think that makes you look?

 

Well, Skip. If you want to insist that I am a conservative, that's fine.

But I wouldn't want to be deemed a liberal either. I think both self-professed conservatives and self-professed liberals are full of shit. They both THINK they know how the world should be run, and that's pretty much all they know.

They are also great at talking a lot of bullshit.

Yes, many Libertarians are FISCALLY conservative. However, most are 100% liberal when it comes to social issues.

Frankly, I don't exactly agree with the economic side of the Libertarian Party. But I am not even a member of the Libertarian Party. I am an independent voter. When I said libertarian, I wasn't speaking of the actual Libertarian Party as much as I was the libertarian mindset. I simply share a libertarian view of government in that people should have the right to do whatever they want, as long as they aren't hurting other people or destroying their property.

 

Actually no Rat, true Liberals (as our founder fathers were and as our Constitution and Bill of Rights are lasting testiments of) do not profess to proclaim how we should run the world. True Liberals indeed profess that it is neither our place nor our moral right to dictate, cajole, bribe, or otherwise steer other sovereign nations in the course of their own self determined development.

If our founding fathers had shared any inkling of the sort of interventionistic, imperialistic self aggrandisement that has come to mark our MIC driven foreign policy of global hegemony, they would never have drafted a set of governing precepts so out of keeping with the myopic nationalistic self interest and authoritarian character of the Europe from which they fled to form a more inclusivistic and participatory society.

Conservative thought (or reactionistic non-thought, to be precise) seeks to restore the aspirations of empire, all repackaged in more palatable modern wrapping, yet every bit as short sighted as its antecedent, best left buried in the annals of European history.

In turning our country into a business, we have subjugated the Liberal values enshrined in our founding documents to the baser qualities of sheer greed and lust for power and in so doing have in less than a century managed to visit more unnecessary destruction on our global neighbours and on our own people in the name of profit and "business as usual" than any power in the history of the world.

Democrat/Republican, both share the same penchant, the same intent for securing privilege for the few over the advancement of the many and the same myopia for the historically proven decline and ruin to which such aspirations will ultimately lead. True Liberalism has truly become an orphan in the land of its birth while far too many who claim to uphold it are busy selling it out to the highest corporate bidder.

Seems history must once again teach its lesson the hard way.

 

Michael Moore wipes his ass with $25,000.

Never mind the fact that he makes money off his "truth-seking." It's not like he's running a non-profit service in the sake of the truth.

No argument.

Like it is eh? If you think anything Michael Moore says is "like it is," you're only shitting yourself. Moore is about as unbiased as Rush Limbaugh or Bill O'Reilley, the only difference is he wears a different political nametag.

So by those standards anyone who gets bashed must, therefore, be correct? Lemme get this straight, people hating you = you being right? WTF? Bush gets bashed every day just as hard, if not harder, then Michael Moore. Does that mean he is close to the truth as well?

Oh, you mean how the Saudis own 7% of the U.S. government right? This might come as a shock to you, but just because some chump in a Michael Moore film says, and I quote, "I have heard figures as high as 6 or 7%," DOES NOT MEAN THAT HE IS INFALLIBLE. Moore has a way of throwig information out at the audience without even attempting to explain where said information came from, and just expects them to believe it. And sadly, a lot of people do. In fact, I only heard him list a source for his bloated stats and numbers twice, and both times the source cites was the Washington Post (and if that's anything like the New York Post, it's bullshit).

 

well, you can continue to completely buy every word spewed by liberals, but i'll stay a skeptic. i don't just buy shit anyone says, i don't trust any of them. i'll keep my socially liberal views as well as my somewhat conservative opinions on fiscal management, and continue to see the devil in other's motives while trying to seek the devil in my own.

 

is mike wilson a conservative republican?

 

The washington post is kinda like the new york times. And the Washington Times is like the New york post. Kinda Ironic, eh?

 

"Our country"? I thought you live in Belgium?

 

i believe she works in belgium.

 

I can't believe people took Michael Moores movie seriously. I think you could quite possibly be the most thick headed person on this forum.

 

Im a HE not a she, for the thrid time. And yes, I am an American citizen living and working in Brussels (along with thousands of other Americans and expats of all nationalities).

 

lol. sorry lick. i didn't see the other two times you posted your sex. the name kinda throws me off.