If Women Ruled ....

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  1. Keramptha

    Keramptha Senior Member

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    lol hello. it didnt make sense to me when i wrote it either..so apologies for just leaving it.


    i think i meant..

    for whatever reason nature has intended ... [lol bear with me] for women to live longer than men....and this must mean that men only serve a purpose for so long...while women continue to be useful.

    and considering old folks are only so useful...i suggest women live longer becuase they have more wisdom to pass on to their children...and i also suggest that this special wisdom comes from being a woman.

    green, i didnt mean just sex, but in a way... men are kind of desinged to provide, [sperm, and shelter, to be crude].. and women are designed to nurture...this is kind of sexist, but there must be an element of truth in it.. becuase why do women live 10 years longer?
     
  2. Green

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    "for whatever reason nature has intended ... [lol bear with me] for women to live longer than men....and this must mean that men only serve a purpose for so long...while women continue to be useful"- What the hell? Women live that much longer than men, what does that have to do with anything? Women are naturally smaller, and smaller things live longer, that could be it.

    "and considering old folks are only so useful...i suggest women live longer becuase they have more wisdom to pass on to their children...and i also suggest that this special wisdom comes from being a woman."- Why wouldn't a man have this "wisdom"? Women are somehow wiser than men and they are the ones who say useful things to the youth? That is Bs.

    green, i didnt mean just sex, but in a way... men are kind of desinged to provide, [sperm, and shelter, to be crude].. and women are designed to nurture...- Men aren't designed to provide shelter. What kind of fantasy world are you living in? The purpose of a man is NOT to serve a woman, and the purpose of a woman is NOT to serve a man. You've been brainwashed by the Christian fundys, with or without knowing it. Who said women are designed to nurture? Thats just societys attitiude today. Men can nurture, take care of children, but society is so fucked up they try to keep men as far away from children as possible. There is some feminists rhetoric running around about this too, they believe something along those lines.

    "this is kind of sexist, but there must be an element of truth in it.. becuase why do women live 10 years longer?"- Dammit get your facts straight, they don't live 10 years longer. They live longer because they are smaller, and because they obsess more over their health, they also live longer on average because their bodys are more likely to survive illness than a mans. Also, they live longer because they have less suicides.

    Also men have been living shorter lives because in the past and even now in many places men were the ones who went out and got jobs. Jobs create stress and the guys die earlier because of the stress they got working their jobs.

    How can you "interperet" nature when nature has been fjeiwre over and replaced with a stupid f'ed up society? We don't know arekjw about the real "nature" of humans, as we do monkeys or cows. We do know about human nature, but that is something else entirely, that is the nature of the mind, not the body.

    That is a stupid and sexist thing to believe. Believing the role of men is to provide and of women is to raise children, because "nature" (which is a word people use when talking to non believers, in place of god, sometimes) intended for women to do that is sexist. What happened to EQUALITY?

    That is contrary to the feminist movement. That creates inequalitys. Its because of thoughtless mindsets like that that the E.R.A. hasn't been added to the national governments constitution yet.
     
  3. Keramptha

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    wel..thats okay...i'd probab;ly react in the same as you to that comment!

    whatver answer you have to the question.. why do women live longer? theres an obvious oppotunity to say why the one sex is 'better', or 'more great'

    you can say.... men have a shorter life expectancy becuase they go to work...Or women live longer becuase they are the wise old witches, and in what you're saying.. that men have stress from work...thats also an example of them being the provider...But i didnt know women were better at resisting disease!!

    can i now ask you to explain what you mean by women being smaller..equates to a longer life?

    Did you know women have a higher pain threshold? and would you offer amale perspective on why that is also?... my idea is that mentally, women know that one day they're going to probably house and excrete a melon, and so mentally, they preparing for that pain all their life...and other pains, just dont compare to that prospect.

    when you mentioned..'women obses about their helath more' and this increases their life expectancy... thats an example of them being the nurturer. and is exactly what i meant..they protect their health, and they protect their childrens health...they nurture their familys growth, the man is providing away at his stressful job...this is the difference in their life expectancy....it's been studied alot that men are less able to natrually feel emotional attatchment...their brains are different..of course, this isnt across the board, there are some women with masculine brains... some men with feminine brains.. but for the most part. ie; 3 out of 5 in a test subject...[men] have to try harder to make their brains work on the emotional level. Again... Its the women. who gives birth to the child...she has a greater bond with the thing...she spends more time nurturing it...

    Also if you want to take nature out the equation and focous on this f'ed up society, then women can now, freeze sperm...and continue the human race without men altogether.

    The thing with life expectancy.. is that as you get older.. your life expectancy increases..this is because you'e survived so far...have you seen the rates of death on the road?, that when the age foe driving becomes legal...mens death rate suddenly soars...so are men more risk takers?, to me...they are.. but its not something a woman would do.. because she has a deeper emotional attatchment to life..o her children.. or the children she knows she will have one day.. she is a nurtutrer of life.. he is a provider for it...and also takes big risks to do that
     
  4. Atom bomb therapy

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    you are asking for it with this post haha
     
  5. mynameiskc

    mynameiskc way to go noogs!

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    my mom put the longevity thing to me like this : women are very sturdy, men are more specialized. women's minds are more generalized, men's minds are more specialized. both of these are in a more sweeping generality sense. the tasks set before men by nature require a more specific and specialized sort of ability set. the tasks set to women by nature are of a more general purpose set. so instead of being nifty little ferraris racing around and needing high maintenance, women are longlived little volkswagons that require frequent care but are nearly impossibly to kill off. there's also the fact that women, being set as caretakers, are also more inclined to take care of themselves medically than men are. men who are married tend to live longer than unmarried men because they basically have a live-in nurse.
     
  6. hippypaul

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    I suspect that there is more variation within a gender than there is from one gender to another. There have been some good points made but there are also some awfully sweeping generalizations. BTW, smaller individuals live longer because they have a better heart to load ratio. The bigger you are the more area your heart has to provide fresh blood to, are at least that was the theory the last time I looked. Life span research changes almost on a daily basis. I have found in my life that if you pick 10 men at random and 10 women at random that you are more likely to find someone interesting to talk to in the female group. However, I am a well-known candy-ass fagot type. If I were any more pussy-whipped, my nose would bleed every 28 days. Therefore, I am not perhaps the best champion for my gender. Returning to the original post – I though it was funny as hell.
     
  7. Green

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    "you can say.... men have a shorter life expectancy becuase they go to work...Or women live longer becuase they are the wise old witches, and in what you're saying.. that men have stress from work...thats also an example of them being the provider...But i didnt know women were better at resisting disease!!"- But theres no proff "Nature" intended for them to be the provider. Girl babies are less likely to die than boy babies. I don't know why they die less, but I'm told its their immune systems.

    "can i now ask you to explain what you mean by women being smaller..equates to a longer life?"- Women are physically smaller in general, and smaller animals live longer lives than larger animals.

    "Did you know women have a higher pain threshold? and would you offer amale perspective on why that is also?... my idea is that mentally, women know that one day they're going to probably house and excrete a melon, and so mentally, they preparing for that pain all their life...and other pains, just dont compare to that prospect."- Or maybe they just have really strong pelvises so they don't crack when they give birth? Your body doesn't prepare you for pain. If I were to spend 9 hours every day for 20 years imagining I was going to be hung by my arms so that my shoulders became dislocated or that cold water was thrown on me do you think my body would do anything to prevent that? No, women are able to have babies because if they couldn't, none of us would be here. Women don't have to have a baby, and I don't have to join the army and end up being tortured in a cell.

    "when you mentioned..'women obses about their helath more' and this increases their life expectancy...thats an example of them being the nurturer."- Its an example of society placing more emphasis on women's bodies.

    "and is exactly what i meant..they protect their health, and they protect their childrens health...they nurture their familys growth, the man is providing away at his stressful job..."- Thats because that is the way it was set up in our stupid society. Men can stay home and take care of their children, just as well as any of thier wives can. The divorce courts and you have this stupid mentality that women are the "mothers" and in divorce court women play the "mother card" so that they get the kids. In order for us to be equal, the E.R. Amendment has to be added to the constution, men will start marrying up to women and becoming househusbands, and this entire stupid mentality will go away, and guys might actually want to get married. Nature didn't intend for the males to go to work and not "nurture" their children.

    "this is the difference in their life expectancy....it's been studied alot that men are less able to natrually feel emotional attatchment..."- In our society, in our fucking society.

    "their brains are different..of course,"- and all retards shouldn't be allowed to own property? Yes, they should be allowed. I don't care if in general one of the sexes can't do something the other can, we need to make them equal anyway, even though they aren't "equal". Inequalities aren't a good reason to keep things unequal.

    "this isnt across the board, there are some women with masculine brains... some men with feminine brains.. but for the most part. ie; 3 out of 5 in a test subject...[men] have to try harder to make their brains work on the emotional level."- Sounds like bs. What is a "feminie brain"? Is it one that "posses feminine traits such as forgiveness (eww), admitting your wrong (pfft) and". Society programs men and women to act certain ways. Men are programed to be agressive, whatever, ect. Women are programmed to be nice, say sorry alot, even if it isn't their faults. Men and women feel the same emotionally about their children, but in expressing it, for women it is automatic, men have to think about how to express it because they were forbidden from developing that area of social interaction in their brains. That study is stupid and sexist.

    "Again... Its the women. who gives birth to the child...she has a greater bond with the thing...she spends more time nurturing it..."- Yes, women do feel a bond with their child before it is born.

    "Also if you want to take nature out the equation and focous on this f'ed up society, then women can now, freeze sperm...and continue the human race without men altogether."- I wonder what it'd be like? Shutter...

    "The thing with life expectancy.. is that as you get older.. your life expectancy increases..this is because you'e survived so far...have you seen the rates of death on the road?, that when the age foe driving becomes legal...mens death rate suddenly soars...so are men more risk takers?, to me...they are.. but its not something a woman would do.. because she has a deeper emotional attatchment to life..o her children.. or the children she knows she will have one day.. she is a nurtutrer of life.. he is a provider for it...and also takes big risks to do that"- That is all caused by gender roles, which are programmed into our children from the momment they are born. Things aren't that way because that is "nature". Nature, in our minds, doesn't exist, because we have never really experienced it. We have only experienced "society", not nature. So you can't say "men do this and women do this, because thats the way, in their brains, it was supposed to be". It actually is "Men do this, and women do this, because thats what society has programmed them to do".
     
  8. IronGoth

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    Men die before women because God is merciful.
     
  9. Keramptha

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    yes.. i do agree with you....there was a time when women were the warrirors and men were working at home and looking after the children...dont ask me where i got that from..a very realiable source!

    i do agree that its society that programmes our brains.. and it's up to us to uncondition ourselves, so that we may consider ourselves/.. nt as a 'mentality of sex' but as a human/person, capable of anything...

    This is my new question.. does the conditioning of our society also effect the life expectancy? and there differences?

    apprantly, from the same reliable source... the human body is designed to live for 100 years, now that doesnt matter if you're a man or a woman...

    becuase men are bigger risk takers.. and women are not.. does that mean women are conditioned not to take risks?, I dont think this is right, i think women take less 'stupid' risks, like driving too fast...becuase they have a natrual desire to have children...So MENTALLY.. they know they need to protect their bodies...and MENTALLY they know also that giving birth will involve a great deal of pain... this MENTALLY PREPARES them for withstanding pain, becuase they are not simply TOLD that one day they will give birth..and so they now se this as a real possibilty.. it is how nature has designed the female body.. its not suggestion or conditioing that a woman can give birth and a man cannot. its the way nature designed us... this makes women from a young age.. MENTALLY PREPARE... thats what they do, they have antrual instinct to nurture...and i suggest that this is stronger in women than men becuase men..[genrally].do not consider their whole life, how to nurture and protect a human being, that they will carry inside themselves for nine months... i am pretty sure that women start very young, learning about their bodies in a more loving way..becuase they are trying to determine what the best conditions for life will be inside their bellies!

    men have a great amount of testosterone.. this is designed to impregnate AS MANY WOMEN AS POSSIBLE...to spread the seed...not to harbour and develop one life.

    im NOT saying that men are bad parents...im saying that nature has deisgned for men to fertilise, and for women to nurture...and i suggest also that this has something to do with life expectancy.. women are perhaps desgined to live longer lives becuase they have more experience with child /'life' rearing...and this is a valubale tool, that continues to benefit the continuance of life..as generations, seek advice..or help..in child /'life' rearing!!
     
  10. Green

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    "yes.. i do agree with you....there was a time when women were the warrirors and men were working at home and looking after the children...dont ask me where i got that from..a very realiable source!"-Where did you get that from?

    "This is my new question.. does the conditioning of our society also effect the life expectancy? and there differences?"- Yes, people of different genders have to do different things. So your life expectancy is less if you have to fight in a war as opposed to if you have to raise children.

    "apprantly, from the same reliable source... the human body is designed to live for 100 years, now that doesnt matter if you're a man or a woman..."- Cool

    "becuase men are bigger risk takers.. and women are not.. does that mean women are conditioned not to take risks?, I dont think this is right, i think women take less 'stupid' risks, like driving too fast...becuase they have a natrual desire to have children...So MENTALLY.. they know they need to protect their bodies...and MENTALLY they know also that giving birth will involve a great deal of pain... this MENTALLY PREPARES them for withstanding pain, becuase they are not simply TOLD that one day they will give birth..and so they now se this as a real possibilty.. it is how nature has designed the female body.. its not suggestion or conditioing that a woman can give birth and a man cannot. its the way nature designed us... this makes women from a young age.. MENTALLY PREPARE... thats what they do, they have antrual instinct to nurture...and i suggest that this is stronger in women than men becuase men..[genrally].do not consider their whole life, how to nurture and protect a human being, that they will carry inside themselves for nine months... i am pretty sure that women start very young, learning about their bodies in a more loving way..becuase they are trying to determine what the best conditions for life will be inside their bellies!"- Then why don't lesbians take more risks than the rest of the female population?

    "men have a great amount of testosterone.. this is designed to impregnate AS MANY WOMEN AS POSSIBLE...to spread the seed...not to harbour and develop one life."- Why aren't gay men obsessed with inpregnating as many women as possible?

    "im NOT saying that men are bad parents...im saying that nature has deisgned for men to fertilise, and for women to nurture..."- So your saying they aren't designed to be parents at all?

    "and i suggest also that this has something to do with life expectancy.. women are perhaps desgined to live longer lives becuase they have more experience with child /'life' rearing...and this is a valubale tool, that continues to benefit the continuance of life..as generations, seek advice..or help..in child /'life' rearing!!"- Then why don't lesbians die 7 or so years before the rest of the female population? I don't see why women would need to stick around for a few years to tell people how to have babies, I mean thats just rediculous. Since when has it ever been a problem to have a baby so that the young pregnant female needed advice from an older female?

    Why would nature design women so that they could live longer to give advice on how to have babies?
     
  11. Levi

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    And don't forget that,according to the story, Adam passed the buck right away. God asked him, "Did you eat this?" and Adam said, "But, God SHE told me to!"

    Wuss.
     
  12. Levi

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    Uh, I waded through it until around page 5, so I haven't read the whole thing, but I have one point to add.


    If this woman ruled the world, men who repeatedly father children and then fail to take care of them in any way would be captured, fixed, and then released back into the wild. It's only right.
     
  13. IronGoth

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    RE: If this woman ruled the world, men who repeatedly father children and then fail to take care of them in any way

    If men ruled the world, women who trapped men into paternity would face charges of fraud.
     
  14. Keramptha

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    in tribes....in families, even today...just look at the eldest woman....she usually has some advice or love to give...that is about nurturing and growth of her children....women are wise old things...

    the female body does the nurturing of growth of life.. the male body provides the catalyst...look at the orgasm....man..shoots...speedy! done! woman..long time....slow...she can 'drag it out' somehow.. thats pretty clever i reckon..whether she does this mentally, or its a natrual design...it looks to me like men are designed to have shorter lives, and women longer ones...

    Women start puberty earlier than men.... this can only mean that they have a longer life span...they're slow burners..they start 'blooming' [i am talking about sexual development] earlier...You must notice how the girls you know start taking an interest in older guys...thats becuase they are at the same level sexual development. meanwhile, the guys the same age havent begun to change yet, does this mean the girl is growing up faster...that she's going to get old quicker? it seems so.. but still, it isnt so. She lives longer, becuase she takes her time!, her development is a longer process

    in the process of creation..the mans physical involvment, is a matter of minutes..the womens is nine months...she takes longer to do her thing!

    this can only mean that on subtle levels...women have more experience than men of the same age... in physical development.more experience, means more patience, means, more confidence...less stress.equals longer life.
     
  15. mynameiskc

    mynameiskc way to go noogs!

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    i guess today we have a case of "buyer beware." lol.
     
  16. IronGoth

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    RE: this can only mean that on subtle levels...women have more experience than men of the same age... in physical development.more experience, means more patience, means, more confidence...less stress.equals longer life.

    "Did you do a lot of acid, Miller, back in the hippie days?"

    RE: guess today we have a case of "buyer beware." lol.

    Why do you think so many men are going metrosexual?
     
  17. mynameiskc

    mynameiskc way to go noogs!

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    hehe. be careful where you stick your dick. there's a lotta sorry trashbins out there.
     
  18. IronGoth

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    I don't.
     
  19. sensualerotica

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    lol, women do rule!! :)
     
  20. TopNotchStoner

    TopNotchStoner Georgia Homegrown

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    Exactly. I'm not too ignorant to realize that women rule the world. But they do not have TOTAL control. If they did, the world would be a much better place. Love and Praise to all empowered women.
     

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