government's role

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by jeana, Oct 30, 2005.

  1. jeana

    jeana Member

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    What is the proper role of government taking into account democratic principles and demographic realities?
     
  2. Talk Show Host

    Talk Show Host Senior Member

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    Explain the democratic principles you're relying on (ie the ones in the text book you're studying from or the ones your teacher/prof speaks about in class, cause there are many) and do the same for the demographic realities. For that one are we talking current, and where?

    Answer those and I'll answer you well.
     
  3. alex714

    alex714 To the Left

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    i think youd be better served in getting responses in some other forum, i.e. politics.
     
  4. Talk Show Host

    Talk Show Host Senior Member

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    trust me she won't.
     
  5. jeana

    jeana Member

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    lol-is it opvious i am a student? yeah, just looking for guidance and different points of view.
    democratic principles: fairness, empowerment, vertical mobility
    demographic realities: gender, age, income, race
     
  6. alex714

    alex714 To the Left

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    are you writing an essay???

    i would attempt to answer it, but its a complex question and i know i dont have enough info to answer it.
     
  7. wizarddrew77

    wizarddrew77 The Wiz

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    To SERVE the PEOPLE! But good luck with that one!
     
  8. TopNotchStoner

    TopNotchStoner Georgia Homegrown

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    The government's SUPPOSED role is to serve the people. But that's not the role that they chose to play. All they do is hinder our growth as individuals and use the constitution only to their advantage, totally disregarding much of what we elected them to do. They are not very fair at all based on my observations. They send hundreds, if not thousands, of people to jail for crimes they didn't commit and they punish people too harshly for crimes they do commit. All of this while higher class citizens(ie Martha Stewart) get very suspended sentences and very little, if any, time behind bars for crimes that regular people would've recieved decades of imprisonment for committing. Nobody would be able to convince me that Martha Stewart didn't buy her way to a suspended sentence. She was even allowed to decide when she would actually go to jail. Money talks, and the government is in it's earshot.
     
  9. Talk Show Host

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    Martha Stewart aside, I have a few problems with what you wrote. I'll start with this ...



    you say the governments role is to serve the people and that they do not because they restrict individuality through the constitution.

    The principles of democracy (at least from what I know of them) say that the government ought to restrict the individual through the constitution. That is what they are MEANT to do.

    what say you?
     
  10. mynameiskc

    mynameiskc way to go noogs!

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    so far as i've ever considered, in the most basic sense, is that the government's role is to keep people from killing each other and from stealing/abusing each other. but even that ends up being subject to esoteric grumblings and rants...
     
  11. makno

    makno Senior Member

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    the proper role for any coercive institutions is to anounce their disolution and everyone associated with it line up to be shot
     
  12. Talk Show Host

    Talk Show Host Senior Member

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    sure, but that will just confuse the poor girl.
     
  13. makno

    makno Senior Member

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    as long as i get to kill pigs she can stay confused for all i care or read something like rouseau .
     
  14. TopNotchStoner

    TopNotchStoner Georgia Homegrown

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    I mean that they usually use the constitution only to their advantage. They put restrictions on our liberties because they do not benefit from certain "rights" that are given to us by the constitution. Cops get away with performing illegal searches and seizures daily and people end up going to jail even though their civil rights have been violated. Of course, I guess that's partially the individuals' fault because we are not well enough informed as to what we are entitled to. And everything I said in my previous paragraph about rich people getting off while other people get rediculous sentences. And other people serve sentences for crimes they didn't even commit. Then when they are eventually cleared after years behind bars, they do not recieve enough compensation for their troubles. All to the government's advantage.
     
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