PLZ POST! is everyone here a birth control junkie?

Discussion in 'Birth Control' started by by/the/waterfall, Oct 2, 2005.

  1. olhippie54

    olhippie54 Touch Of Grey Lifetime Supporter

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    Spastic, you should know you can't argue with the superior intelligence of a teen ager.
     
  2. spasticsofa

    spasticsofa Member

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    of course not. my mother knew this well. :p
     
  3. olhippie54

    olhippie54 Touch Of Grey Lifetime Supporter

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    Mine too. LOL!!!
     
  4. by/the/waterfall

    by/the/waterfall Member

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    i think i ammissing your point here...how am i rebelling? pm me as i cant keep checking this thread if people arent going to talk about the original topic
     
  5. spasticsofa

    spasticsofa Member

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    You are rebelling against societal norms. You have rejected meat, chemicals, anything "unnatural," and widely accepted birth and infection prevention measures.

    I predict that you came to almost all these conclusions within the last 2 years.
     
  6. ihmurria

    ihmurria fini

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    you'd better warn all of your future partners about how many people you've been with before without protection. Doing any less than that is cruel to that other person. Get your STD test results in writing and signed and prove it to them, don't unwittingly transfer nasty things to other people

    and as for your Africa/monogamy rant, well, is it really the HIV positive baby's fault that his mother got raped by someone who was HIV positive? Think before you speak.
     
  7. TheMistress

    TheMistress Senior Member

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    hippies still promote healthy sex
     
  8. underplay

    underplay Member

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    So she is against using a condom but for abortion? omg..wow.

    Im going to laugh in your face for how stupid you are.
     
  9. lawngirl

    lawngirl Member

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    condoms are free and an abortion can cost about $500USD (excluding follow-up visits)...

    ...you must be one rich little girl, or have some really nice parents, if you can come up with $500+ at a moments notice. have fun protesting mommy and daddy and birth control and capitalism when you go asking them for money to pay for an abortion.

    i'm really having a problem taking you seriously, and i'm convinced this has to be a joke. you can't be serious that you'd rather have an abortion than use any form of birth control because it's "not natural." obviously what is natural is NOT your priority, otherwise you wouldn't get an abortion. what it really boils down to is that when push comes to shove, you can't stand behind your beliefs, and you're just going to take the laziest route until life catches up with you. you're not invincible. if you want to make a statement, pick one you can stand behind.

    why don't you look into natural birth control? like charting your cycle, paying close attention to your discharge, etc...

    are you also against going to the doctor, since that's not natural, either? i seriously hope you're getting regular pap smears and std tests. how are you going to be sure you don't get stds? just hope that you're not in the 75% that carries hpv?
     
  10. Kinky Ramona

    Kinky Ramona Back by popular demand!

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    I know I'm not the first to ask, but isn't an abortion even more unnatural than birth control? And I know I'd certainly much rather prevent a pregnancy from even happening than go through the pain and risk that can be involved with an abortion. And by all means, correct me if I'm wrong, but technically, isn't abortion a method of birth control in itself (albeit, a very extreme one)? I'm on prescription birth control and I was hoping this thread might have brought up valid points on why hormones aren't the greatest birth control in the world. Mine caused such extreme emotional, hormonal trips that I was almost suicidal. I'm switching to another type next week to see how it goes. But anyway, that's beside the point. Keep in mind, there is nothing bad about using condoms, latex is biodegradable, meaning it's still environmentally friendly, but unless you have an alternative method of birth control and know for a fact that you and your partner are both completely STD free, then there is no excuse not to use one. You are far too young to bring another human being into the world, so if you're against "unnatural" birth control, heed lawngirl's advice, do look into natural birth control. There's an entire thread dedicated to it, I'm sure you can find it if you do a little searching. Like everyone here has either said or been trying to say, just because we're open-minded doesn't mean we can't be safe about sex. It's a beautiful thing, but it carries a lot of risks.
     
  11. APinkBunnyRabbit

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    This is one of those lessons life has to teach you that you are insisting on learning the hard way. "I know lots of other girls who have unprotected sex and don't get pregnant or STDs." I don't even know how to respond to something like that. For one, unless your slutbag friends have actually been tested, you can't say that they don't have STDs; they may all be global viral distribution hubs for all you know - many STDs don't show symptoms for quite some time. Second, the more unprotected sex you have, especially at 15, the more likely it is that you will get pregnant. You will get pregnant, and you will have to deal with it.

    Some possible situations: "oh shit, my tummy is getting hard. Oh fuck. There's a real baby in there. I have to kill it except... I don't think I can, I would feel too guilty. Oh no." (there goes my entire life)

    "Oh, shit, I have AIDs."

    "Oh, shit, I have am pregnant. I have to get an abortion." 2 months later "Fuck, becuase of the abortion procedure I can never get pregnant again. Now I can never reproduce or start a family of my own. Damnit!"

    It's not about societal norms or politics, it's about common sense. I will tell you to smoke pot if you like, to drop out of school and educate yourself if you can, never to work a job in your life but to earn income in other ways if you can. I am far from being in-line with societal values, don't get me wrong, but I don't walk into a store and laugh at condoms thinking I'm above them. Wow, that's some stupid shit (I'm not calling you stupid, but your anti-condemness is stupid).
     
  12. hippychickmommy

    hippychickmommy Sugar and Spice

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    by/the/waterfall, I don't think what you're doing is very safe, especially if you have or had multiple sex partners. You are putting your life at risk as you never know what your partner may have picked up.

    A little history about me regarding birth control, I'm married and have been with my hubby nearly 10 years. He is the only person I have ever been sexually intimate with. We have three beautiful children, but have also lost two other pregnancies.

    I have a problem with using birth control for myself. My husband can use it, he has to, and to me it's like, he's the one preventing, instead of me. It's easier for me to deal with that way, less guilt. If I could, I'd have more children, but I had severe complications with my last pregnancy in which case, if I were to become pregnant again, I have a very high risk of mortality. So, no more babies here. My husband and I have been discussing him getting a vasectomy. He's okay with that, well, as okay as a man can be. ;)

    I refuse to have my tubes tied. Absolutely not, not open for discussion. No birth control pills, no IUD's, patches, and any of the other various forms of birth control that the female must use. Why must all of it rest on the woman anyway? I have always had a bit of a hang-up regarding birth control. I'm not sure why really, I just feel guilty about it. This may sound crazy to some, but it's how I feel. In addition to that, I have birthed three children, my body has held five pregnancies, two of which did not make it, but I feel like I've done more than enough, and to put the birth control reigns into my hands seems a bit unfair. I mean, seriously, what has my husband's body endured?

    Anyway, it's not as though I am against birth control. That's not the issue, it's more that I am uncomfortable with it when it comes to myself and my fertility. Make any sense?

    Then again, my situation is probably different than yours.
     
  13. Number6

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    by/the/waterfall, You know unprotected sex can lead to STD and you know unprotected sex can lead to pregnancy. It does not sound to me like you are ignorant. However knowing these things and still engaging in unprotected sex and preferring abortion to using a condom shows me you are stupid. I am sorry if this offends you, but someone has to tell you like it is because it is obvious to me neither you, your boyfriend or any of your friends are capable of making an informed decsion.
     
  14. Lodui

    Lodui One Man Orgy

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    And this everyone is why those sex ed videos with the grotesque STD's are a good idea to show the tykes.

    Waterfall, my advice is to stop fucking til you have a more mature outlook on sex.

    Nothing personal, but to make choices like that, you must have very low self esteem. You deserve to be safe.
     
  15. VioletLilly

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    ByThe Waterfall
    Live how you like to live, do what you wanna do, believe whatever your clueless mind wants to believe.
    BUT, kin hell, STOP SHAGGING.
    With this attitude you're very soon a time-bomb transmitting everything from despair to HIV and probably even tripper.
    If it weren't so serious and you not so poor, I'd laff me cacks off about you.
     
  16. Trickster

    Trickster Misfit

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    If you really taken into account all these types of media, tv, books, magazines and movies, then you would know that the best way to not fall pregnant is by using condoms and taking the pill. With this, this is the best chance of not getting STD's with also having regular medical checks. Don't sleep around and risk the chance of getting an infection and if you think you or your partner has something, then get a blood test before you do anything remotely sexual, that includes oral sex and kissing.
    You may be nieve being 15 but i won't call you stupid. I assume your confidence in believing no protection is a good thing, comes from your good luck so far. It won't last though. You are old enough to conceive a child and unless you have a physical condition that will stop you becoming pregnant, you will get pregnant. That's what happens when a fertile girl and fertile boy have unprotected sex, regardless of you wanting to not happen.
    With that, you up your chances of getting a wide range of health problems that will be painful, costly, and maybe life threatening like HIV, AIDS, Herpes etc.
    I urge you to think of your health and your young life. I doubt you can afford a child and medical bills if you get sick. All the advice on here is not just opinion but fact. You can find all this information on the net or all those places you said you looked at. Please talk to an adult as your friends are not the best to give you advice and i suspect they too think this is fun, but you are playing with adult issues. Seek confirmation of all this before it's too late :)


     
  17. MamaTheLama

    MamaTheLama Too much coffee

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    Abortion is surgery. It feels like absolute crap physically and takes a recovery period of feeling like you just had surgery (not that being pregnant in the last few months is horribly enjoyable either...especially if you like sleeping on your stomach).

    I am in no way an advocate of most birth control methods...they tend to be horrible for the balance of the body or horribly ineffective........but unless you are trying to get pregnant or have a fetish and the money for elective surgeries (abortion).......
    and you still want to be sexually active....
    it's a no brainer...
    and it's not like using the patch is hard work or anything...if you could paste stickers to your forehead when you were two years old, you can apply the patch now.
     
  18. MrRee

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    OK it goes something like this. I've got three kids and three grandchildren. Of my kids, two were conceived using contraception; 1st using spermicidal foam and condom (the foam weakened the condom, but the foam didn't do too good either!) & 3rd my wife was on the pill. 2nd child was planned.
    So from my experience I have reasoned that contraception can easily be overcome by full-on raunchy orgasms, given that was the way things went for us. So you might get pregnant anyways if you really go at it and get right off again and again and again. This may be rare for kids your age (15), or maybe not. Who knows what height of orgasm is reached? But I reckon the bigger the orgasm, the bigger the chance of conception/fertilization.

    As a therapist, I deal with many young women whose lives have been totally screwed by having abortions. It is something that seems to weigh very heavily on their minds and conscience, despite sometimes heavy denial. Women I have treated who have had abortions and say that it means nothing to them usually only find resolutionh when the psycho-emotional effects of the abortion are dealt with.

    As far as swinging between the paradigms of conventional religious belief and freedom of expresion ~ ask yourself if your life will be fulfilled by pretending to be something that you are not. It is your life, your body, your mind, and your destiny. Don't let anyone steal your birthright. Ever. Do what you want to do, be what you want to be. But always do it from the depth of your heart and being with no regrets.

    My 3rd child (daughter age 20) gave birth to an unplanned baby girl 7 months ago. She never once considered abortion and accepted that nature's way is far superior to mankind's way. The result is the most delightful little girl that brings so much love and joy into the world.

    Life is for eternally living, but for the moment, now is all that we have.
    Enjoy it.
     
  19. Trickster

    Trickster Misfit

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    Those who consider abortion are just as human, moral and great individuals as those who have the child. To think any different makes you a despicable person.
     
  20. MrRee

    MrRee Senior Member

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    To judge on the basis of misinterpretation is also despicable.
     

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