CAMPBELL34 VS. LIBERTINE :The War To Settle The Score...

Are you still talking... Last time I checked, you still haven't replied to the Eastern Gate prophecy for the LITERALLY 11th time.... so PLEASE either respond with some sense and depth or don't respond at all especially with your cliche one liners...

 

hi david,
i didn't respond immediately because i knew i didn't have enough time to properly read your reply, and what a reply it is!!
difficult or needless to respond to, simply nice to read.

haha

i understand.

in what way? i can see that you're turning thoughts over in your head here, the way you describe these concepts are probably better explained (& understood!) with wild hand gestures and lots of chin-scratching. lol. would this database be god? the mind of god? perhaps the tool of god. what does it mean for the database to be run by a human being?

absolutely. and in that response i was sort of looking away from you and towards the christianity forum, the view of god/high-confidence perspective as creator, also.

of course; again i was off the track and referring more to the common idea of creator rather than the 'don't-know' that you and i are probably more akin to.

thank you.

why is there pain associated with truth such that a person would deny it to escape the feeling of pain? why does a person avoid balance when it is presented to him?

i definitely understand this.

a beautiful post.

you sound like a very peaceful and sincerely compassionate person. you use the word 'soul'; what does that mean and upon what do you base your belief in it?

thanks david =)

love,
sophia

 

Here is a good website... www.yahoo.com search for eastern gate and tell me that it doesn't exist... Or perhaps the sealed gate in Jerusalem facing east is a mirage to everyone that looks at it ; )

 

MRREE, HERE'S SOME EVIDENCE FOR THAT SUPPOSED EAST GATE. NOW TELL US THERE IS NO SUCH GATE.

http://www.harpazo.net/easterngate.html

 

Yes David, I believe the Bible encourges the use of science, but warns of false science. False science can be detected when it opposes Biblical truth. And if Biblical truth is true, science will reveal that truth. Yet in order to do that, all evidence should be brought forward. Yet this is the problem with Evolution, the Theory only looks good if you bar or deny axcess to all other evidence that would refute it. It was believed by many that the believers of Evolution are the one's with the open minds. Yet they are the first one's to jump up and bar any evidence that would refute their theory. In just recent times science has stated that soft tissue can not survive more than 10,000 years. Then they discovered dinosour bones with soft tissue. Rather than hold true to their belief on soft tissue, the did a reversal and now say that soft tissue, now can last 70 million years. They had to do that, because if they did not, it would of thrown off their whole Theory of Evolution. It would of ment that dinosours were wandering around just 10,000 years ago. Creation Science has stated all along that this was the case. And the discovery of soft tissue would of confirmed that belief, but main line science quickly changed their theory to keep Evolution from falling. The Theory of Evolution is nothing more than a stack of cards which todays science is trying to preserve. Any change in theories will send them tumbling down. So bad science must come in to play to keep their theory alive. All theories must revolove around the Theory of Evolution, not the other way around. It's this kind of science, the Bible has warned us about.

 

I think that you will find that throughout all of history, the gate shown in the link has been called "The Golden Gate", and has never been called "eastern gate", which once again highlights christian propensity to falsely rewrite hiostory so as to conform to dogma and belief.
Google "golden gate jerusalem" and you'll get historically correct results.
Google "eastern gate jerusalem" and even being deceiptful will no provide any link.
"Eastern gate" google search only produces results when the word "prophecy" is added, and links are entirely christian, showing that christians are usurping history and claiming it as their own to write.
The supposed JC also said (Matt 24:2) See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down. This was said after he'd departed the temple (Matt24:1), so the prophecy is of all that was around, not the temple exclusively! Which means the buildings of Jerusalem, of which walls and gates are part, as well as temples, houses, chicken coops....all these things shall be thrown down
Not only that, but OT prophecy has no bearing in NT ideation except for the fact that, in order to ascribe some vague authenticity to it's false doctrine, christianity usurps whatever it can find so as to prop up it's continued lies.

 

It is called the East Gate by Christians because it is on the East side of the Temple Mount, and when Jesus left the Temple IF YOU READ THE TEXT, His followers were pointing out to Him the WORKS OF THE TEMPLE. The Gate is a considerable distance away from the Temple. If you are going to quote scripture, please state what His followers were pointing out to Jesus. And not just that He left the Temple. That's the kind of reporting some here might consider to be dishonest. THE EASTERN GATE IS NOT PART OF THE WORKS OF THE TEMPLE. SORRY, NICE TRY ANYWAY.

 

Ezekiel 44:1-3

Then the man brought me back to the outer gate of the sanctuary, the one facing east (Thus Eastern Gate), and it was shut. The LORD said to me, "This gate is to remain shut. It must not be opened; no one may enter through it. It is to remain shut because the LORD, the God of Israel, has entered through it. The prince himself is the only one who may sit inside the gateway to eat in the presence of the LORD. He is to enter by way of the portico of the gateway and go out the same way.

 

You must have missed this previous post...


Are you still talking... Last time I checked, you still haven't replied to the Eastern Gate prophecy for the LITERALLY 11th time.... so PLEASE either respond with some sense and depth or don't respond at all especially with your cliche one liners...

 

Question-Are u still in like 3rd grade or something cause it seems to me that everytime jesusdied4u gives a valid and honest opinion you have to call him a name because you dont any other way to answer him. Why dont you just admit that he is right and you are wrong or should we let this go on and on so you can be continually humilated. Show some humbleness.

 

You cannot insert your christianized ideology so as to alter history or the name of the Golden gate.
Neither can you interpret JC quotes to suit your convolutions. The statement made by JC needs none of your re-interpretation in order to make sense. It only needs your interpretation in order to fit hisory and prophecy into your chosen belief!

please state what His followers were pointing out to Jesus. And not just that He left the Temple. That's the kind of reporting some here might consider to be dishonest. Only a fool would make such a stement. You only need read the verses cited, and already answered in my post. Such obfuscation diverts attention away from the facts to preference your reiniterpretaton of them.

 

What do you know? Another one liner... Let everyone bear record that Imfuzzynutz has been checkmated... again and again and again...

He can list books of anti-christian info but can't even explain away a simple prophecy?

The gate is still sealed and so is my faith...

 

and youre still an idiot

 

I don't care what you call ME... I guess I am just an idiot with an irrefutable message

 

We are the fools for Christ. I wouldn't want to be anything else.

 

you're right at least that the non-christians in here calling you 'retard' and 'idiot' as compared to your sober approach definitely gives you more credit. they make the rest of us look bad.

 

No, you need to read the whole context, not just the verse cited. Because when you only read part of the text you are only left with half truths. Perhaps you can win your arguement with half truths. But if you want the whole truth, you must read the full text. I would say you are the one who diverts attention from the truth, with your reporting of half truths.

 

Ditto, NMHG.


I agree, it is important that we keep these dialogs civil. This is how real progress will be made instead of propagating "the same old problems" of hostile human conflict. We can all learn many things from eveyone who has participated in this thread. For example, I believe that Campbell is incorrect on a number of counts; however, not only do I believe that I have a friend in Campbell, he has taught me a number lessons directly and, also, by 'catalyzing' lessons within me. I believe that we should act more civil with eachother; for ourselves and for eachother, and for our children and 'our children's children.'




[NMHG, Thank You for the wondeful response! I will respond soon (these are interesting questions that we are asking)]

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i understand. at these times you have to keep in mind one thing: patience, (the companion of wisdom). if you cannot restrain yourself, you are still a child. practice self-restraint.



.... don't we love one another?

 

i did kind of feel like fuzzy there for a second. i think i need a shower