I feel awful, I can't stand to be around other people right now. The website obviously portrays things in a negative view, but most of the stuff is true. I go in and I read it, not as a feminist, not as an oppressor, but as a person who wants to live a happy life and wants the person who I would be living with if I decided to marry to live a happy life. Society tends to expect people right now to get married and be a happy couple, which doens't really exist. They expect the girls (in their quest for equality, which is fine with me) to become educated, and take jobs up there in the upper estilon with men. I am absolutely alright with that. Women are just as smart as men, and deserve equal pay. The problem is, they also expect these women to have children. So you both get married, and with your collage degrees get jobs, and then you have children, lets say 3, because I have 2 siblings. This is going to make your lives hell, literally. The stress is insane, they expect mom to take care of all these kids and work full time, and she gets stressed, and becomes depressed. Hearing your mother say she hates herself is one of the worst things in the world, and I hate it even more because I can't do anything about it. My mom has been to a doctor and they wont do anything about it. Then some idiot comes and says women get stressed easier than men, which isn't true. Society has an unrealistic standard on how people should live. My dad bugs me alot about not having a girlfriend, and never having had one, and so do other people in my family. The problem is, I can't find a girl I really like. Most girls are self centered, shallow, control freaks, and I see right through them. My dad never even considered that I might be gay, but I am assuming that he knows that I am not because I am assuming he can tell I watched his porn. My friends who are guys at school ask me "Who do you like?" and I say "Nobody inparticular?" then they go "Who do you think is cute?". What the hell? Shouldn't the question be "What girls have been nice to you?" or something? Many guys think with their penis and not their heads, but I'm not one of them. The media is pushing this like crazy. Half the commercials I see on television have something to do with this. "Buy an SUV, because its comfortable" or "Buy this because it will get rid of your rincles" and worst of all, "Buy this, its a good dinner in less than 60 seconds". I really hate when my mother heats up that crap. I would rather eat cereal or make dinner. I'm not going to live the way my parents and some idiots in society are expecting me to. My sisters are pretty self centred to. They are also haters, they don't particularly like certain groups of people. I don't see how, me and my sisters, being raised in the same household, can be so different. It means that either 1. I'm smart enough to think about what is said to me most the time and ignore it, or 2. They are getting something or some imformation some advertising that I am not. but I bet its both. I don't know what marriage has to do with politics, but I really need some opinions on this. I need some people to respond to this, womens rights people, liberals, people who have left church and/or whos familys have left church, and people esp. women who are focusing more on their careers and less on their being good mothers/wives. I'd also like to hear some opinions from some other people, conservaties, republicans, christians, foriegneers would be really good (please state what country you are from). I'd like to hear what everybody has to say. I need to take into consideration all the things that I need to do and figure out what I need to do to live a happier life. I'm not looking at this as how we should do things like I normally do, I'm looking at it and trying to figure out what I need to do to be happy in my life. Because in the U.S. we are given the choice to have 4 kids or none at all, or get married or not, and so far I'm agreeing with nomarriage.com.
it's not whether you should or should not be interested in dating. if you are, date. if not, don't. whatever floats your boat, mate. you are looking at a radical view but there is a happy medium out there. dating is not marriage... my own uncle and aunt have lived together for a decade and a half and aren't married. but it's good that you're examining your own values and the way you fit in the world. keep at it and I hope you find a place that works for you.
You're only young once. Dating can be fun, so don't miss out on it. Marriage and kids can be a pain. But when you're older, those people will be there to help take care of you. People don't think about it when they are young and independent but when they get older it matters. .
I'm beginning to think that Green is neither a 15 year old boy nor a legit member of Hipforums. He keeps spamming the boards with his promotion of this website(a hatesite really), doesn't listen or respond to any advice given to him that contridicts the website's mantra, and only posts on threads about feminism,marriage, or kids. I don't think he's a naive and scared kid looking for advice, I call TROLL!! It's probably the pathetic web"master" of NoMarriage.com trying to convert all the liberals....like an Evangelist trying to save all the sinners. He probably thinks that if he can get support on a mostly-liberal forum, then he must be right in this thinkings. What's big,lives in the mountains, and swings a club? Troll What did Harry Potter defeat in the first movie? Troll What is the name of that cult-horror from the 80s with Elaine from Seinfeld? Troll
Um. That sight's methodology is terrible, i've been reading it for fifteen minutes now, and i've yet to come across a cited source, worse yet, there are statistics that are made up "80% of marrages end in divorce", or anecdotal "My friend has a Romanian wife, and they're happy, so western women suck" to just plain stupid "Sex after marrage stops". It's an extremly misogynistic, unrealistic, and emotionally immature example of white middle-aged rantings.
Here's another good one, talk about projection! Paging Dr. Freud. I see most women below the age of 40+ as having unrealistic expectations, bitter, angry, extreme emotional and mental problems, unpredictable behaviour, difficult to be around and just have a plain old good time with, difficult to please, moods that vacillate constantly......taking exorbant amounts of medication, not able to keep a goal in mind and complete it, complain and nag, highly negative and far too masculine in my humble opinion......eat too much, enjoy fast food far too much, expect for the guy to pay everything, base most of their joys on going out clubbing, purchasing clothes, and finally: status Most of them invest a lot of effort into making themselves appear pretty, special, and different than other females, but it is completely transparent. The modern American female is an empty shell of a human being, and apparently there are few exceptions. PS: Most of them act like they are fucking 15 years old. Immaturity, undeveloped self-esteem, constant contradictions, emotional response and/or overreaction to the SIMPLEST misstatement or problem, an inability to handle adversity, constant self-absorbment, a total failure of inductive reasoning, deductive reasoning or simple pattern recognition, short attention span, superficiality, an extreme need for dependence while loudly declaring independence, etc... Here is a list of qualities this worthless American woman expects in a man.
"I'm beginning to think that Green is neither a 15 year old boy nor a legit member of Hipforums."- I'm 15. I used to spend alot more time on these forums, but now I don't have much time. Some forums I visit are 1. Young Hippies (don't post much in there anymore, because most of those threads are random). 2. Love and Sex 3. True Confessions 4. Women's issues (I've been in there alot recently) 5. Gay (I don't have many posts in there). 6. Paranoid (Its not very active in there) 7. I'm most active person in mens issues, what should be moved to main page. But I've really been all over, if your interested in where I have been, you can go and read my posts and see what forums they are in. I don't think you should be a critic of if I am legit or not. I didn't come to these forums to promote a website, I came mostly to talk, and I have over 3000 posts. I'd like to spend more time if other forums but they aren't very active. I check and there are no new posts. "He keeps spamming the boards with his promotion of this website(a hatesite really), doesn't listen or respond to any advice given to him that contridicts the website's mantra, and only posts on threads about feminism,marriage, or kids."- I've been to many threads. I've only promoted the website in like a few posts, and almost every time I tried to make sure I left a long commet pretaining to the threads topic. I try not to spam (stupid pointless annoying posts). I take all advice given to me into consideration, but I still have the name of the website in my signature. I have been wrong before and could still be wrong. I don't think he's a naive and scared kid looking for advice, I call TROLL!!- Pfft, I'd be naive not to be scared. You have to face the dark side of human nature. I don't know why your saying this though. It's probably the pathetic web"master" of NoMarriage.com trying to convert all the liberals....like an Evangelist trying to save all the sinners.- I don't particularly agree with everything on the site. I agree with their idea of not getting married, but I don't agree with their idea on gender roles, the womans role inparticular. I'm not religious. I've been called a liberal at school. He probably thinks that if he can get support on a mostly-liberal forum, then he must be right in this thinkings.- What excatilly are my thinkings? Like I said I don't support the entire website of Nomarriage.com. Even if the statistics are "made up" or whatever, it doesn't deter me from the fact that I don't trust any girl alive in the united states today. Not that all girls are unmarriable, but its difficult. I don't see why you are judging me. I'm not a mindless spammer, and I'm not trying to promote hate agianst women. I'm just trying to figure out in my head what I need to do. I don't really have anyplace to talk other than here, and I only know one other public forum. I don't come here to troll. You could count on one hand the number of times I have insulted a specific person on these forums.
ok. I give up. I'm confused. Are you asexual or just looking to hook up without a relationship or marriage? Or am I not even close? There's an asexuality website you should really check out if its the first. ...and there are a crapload of hook up and fuck sites out there if its the second.....
i suspect the real cause of the whole thing has been the rush to get saddled with debt. in a family both partners are usually forced to go to work as soon as possible. both partners are tired. both the woman and the man have unrealistic expectations of themselves or their partners. money figures big in the equation. the solution? from what i've seen the newspapers are full of adverts for prostitutes. this stuff has been going on for quite sometime.
Not just whores...foreiiigggnnn whores. The whole thing is saying that women from outside of the US are never bitches and always do everythng their man wants...HAHAHAAA...he's looking for women from Stepford, not Russia.
I didn't say anything about who I am "Looking for". I edited out the website, because really I don't agree with everything on it, just most of the stuff that talks or is related to the divorce industry. The website talks about women, but fails to mention that men are just as bad. Looking for a woman from "Stepford" would be completely contrary to the anti divorce industry ideology. The idea is that people shouldn't have such insane expectations. So some women can't raise children and have a career at the same time easily, I acknowledge that, not blame them for it. Its rediculous that you think I'm looking for a robot supermodel to cater to my every whim, and I'd be a fool to think I'd find one in Russia, but thats not who I'm looking for. I just don't want to end up with a woman who takes me to divorce court.
Thinking with the penis is a figure of speech. You don't literally think with the penis. It means that you are looking for a girl who is hot, and the idea is that the hotter she is the better, reguardless of what she is like as a person. "Im not sure where materialism and consumerism come in to the picture. It seems entirely unrelated to the rest of the post." -I'm not entirely sure either, but I've got an idea. The idea is the series of events that led to the development of this problem. It is directly related, but not if you only focus on this issue. So, I am not going to talk about it on this thread, don't ask what it is, because I wont answer.
