How on earth did we get like this???

How did we get like this? How is it that we humans have receptors in our brains specifically intended for the wonderful plant cannabis. I mean, what are the odds that a super-intelligent species such as homo-sapiens would be concepted for some unknown reason or origin to live in a perfectly suitable and finely-tuned environment such as the beautiful blue and green earth, to have found the plant cannabis in some far off jungle, have brain receptors specifically designed for it, and have the knowledge that combustion of this plant and inhaling it gets you high???

Now I don't believe in Intelligent Design or anything, but you have to admit that this is no coincidence. I'm at loss of words because I have no logical idea why these things are the way they are.

 

the earths created and destroyed themselves many times, over billions of years, until one suitable for life emerged. we evolved up etc we happen to develop receptors sensitive to thc (i think they have another purpose but i'm a lil baked so idk) then as native americans were exploring new plants safe for consumption, they discovered the strange effects of eating the buds of a certain five leaved plant. this of course would attract attention and the native americans experimented to figure out that it could much more effectively be smoked. then white settlers and mexicans picked it up, then it continued to have its following til it was illegalized in the 20th century, and which point it became an almost sacred symbol of rebellion and people figured its awesome and we now have vapes etc

at least thats my guess

 

You're so full of shit dude hahaha.

Cannabis goes WAY back to eastern cultures. It is thought to be the first cultivated plant - in the fertile crescent region, which is modern day Iraq. Cannabis is thought to have come into existance in the Himalayas somewhere. Possibly Nepal or Pakistan.

As far as the cannabinoid receptors, nobody knows. A lot of people suggest we have an evolutionary link with the plant. I think it is rather mind-blowing myself. But don't forget, other species have these receptors too... Sometimes I start to think about how we could really be less than fully functional without smoking weed. When I get high, it feels like I am taking blinders off. And I have thoughts and notice things I never would normally. The cannabinoid receptors are dormant until activated by cannabis...

Smoke on.

 

oh yeah i forgot it started in the middle east. oh well just bullshitting for the funof it.

 

Lol our receptors are not designed FOR cannabis. If you wanna get down to science, our receptors are what make us perceive sound, light, motion, etc. Now, THC is chemicly similar to these receptors, and they go in and alter them. So its like putting green plastic wrap over food... you can still see the food, only differently (in this case, a different color). See? That part of our body was not specificly put there for the use of cannabis

 

yo guys... im sober tonight..

 

I dont believe in evolution but here is an idea. What if we evolved from weed plants, like all moving life on earth. haha I doubt it.

But seriously, I have put a lot of thought into it and like you have flowers that produce nectar for bees to spread their pollen around, or butterflys, and then you have those hitch hiker plants that stick to you when you walk by so they can spread their seeds about, and you have fruit that tastes good so u can eat it and then throw the seeds out and grow into a tree... the same with weed, we probably already had the cannibis receptor things, so the plant was designed (whatever you believe)to have something that humans would like so it has a chemical that binded to that receptor in humans so ITS seeds could be spread around. Just a theory...

 

So... why does weed affect our receptors the way they do?

 

cuz

 

So we would want to go and get the plant and spread the seeds around! see? they are tricking us into doing the dirty work for them! like flowers lure bees with nectar to spread around pollen, same with weed, it lures us with the nice psychoactive chemicals!

 

OHHHHHHHHH now it makes sense

 

Did what I said make sense? I have a lot of ideas in my head but its hard for me to get them out and shit..

 

:O no way....why!?!?!?

 

I have that effect on many

 

this thread is silly. do you know how many plant species there are on teh planet? do you know how many different chemicals they produce all up? your asking what the chance is that ONE species of plant will produce a range of chemicals which activate sensitivity in our brain?
do you know how your brain makes its chemicals in teh first place? it gets nutrients from plants and converts them into chemicals it needs. the natural chemicals are similar to the ones foundin your brain but need a few modifications to work properly. and so pretty much all chems inteh brain come from natural sources, btu the ones we naturally use also require extra enzyme steps to be of use, and thus be regulated. however other chemicals are ready-useable.

lets see how many plants have chemicals that activate certain receptors in your brain? in no particular order, heres some:

cannabis
shrooms
datura family
morning glory
salvia
tobacco
kava kava
nutmeg
wormwood
peyote
coffee
ephedra
coca
poppies
tea
ephedra
a HUGE number od DMT containing plants
things like kratom
cocoa

and the list goes on but these are better known ones

as for teh question of 'why does thc affect the receptors in teh way they do', i dont really understand what that question means anyway. effect them the way they do as opposed to? as opposed to poisoning you?

guess what, there are TONNES of plants that are poisonous, many more so than there are plants that get you high. if cannabis poisoned your receptors or did something bad, then people simply wouldnt smoke it caus it would umm be poisonous.

the original cannabis species wouldnt have had lots of thc, but enough to serve its purpose.

whats thc's purpose?

its not known compeltely, howeer thc filters certain wavelengths of light, and scatters some as well. notice when you put weed under a black light, it glows? thats cauys the thc and otehr cannabinoids reflect and scatter various wavelengths in order to protect the seeds within.
its also thought that since the cannabinoids would get animals high, and perhaps harm various insects, the production of the chemical was enhanced.

over thousands of years, different interbreeding of plants would have lead to a plant whos enzymes create cannabinoids. once a simple cannabinoid was produced, the plant would have survived better than plants without it, and thus sporead the gene.

however human's first use of cannabis was most likely its fibre content. thus, after harvesting it for its fibre, people would have realised that cannabinoids get you high.

the cannabis plant would then have been bred not only for its fibre but also for its thc, creating strains with lots of thc, more than it needs, but good for the plant nonetheless. these species would also spread and take over from the original native cannabis species.

ruderalis is a bit of a stunted species of cannabis that produces less cannabinoids, however can survive easily in harsh conditions as a smallish plant. while the actual nature of ruderalis is not too well documented, its likely to be a primitive species of cannabis.

i hope this sheds light on your curiosity

 

Ruderalis exists in nature in far northern climates that have short seasons. This is why it has the autoflowering characteristics (lowryder). If I remember correctly, lowryder is a cross of williams wonder, NL, and a ruderalis plant. I'm not sure I would call it primitave, but it is adapted to its climate and photoperiods.

Also, a lot of those plants activate the dopamine receptors... which is nothing unique. The uniqueness about the cannabis plant is that it is the ONLY plant that activates the cannabinoid receptors. These receptors also appear to be mostly dormant. I guess as research progresses, they are finding out the cannabinoid receptors do regulate things within our body, but it is not as defined as the dopamine or serontonin systems. Because of that, I think it really is a special plant, and can understand how people believe there is some kind of link between us and cannabis.

 

chances are, cannabinoids are functional all the time in order to allow us to .. think. just like all other chems. its just that cannabinoids arent neuro-transmitters. theyre regulatory chemicals. they dont send signals, they control teh flow of signals. which is why the effects of cannabis are always differnet, and totally dependant on your mood, and have different withdrawal/addiction status to other drugs.

as for ruderalis, it was onyl identified relatively recently, i say primative because its most likely that it was a species that has been the least developed from its primative origin, despite obviously evolving itself along other lines. like monkeys are to humans. monkeys are more primative, resembling our common ancestors, but humans didnt come FROM monkeys that we know today, but are a further evolved species from the common ancestor.

also, it is believed that thujone connects to canabinoid receptors, but i guess there isnt enough solid evidence to say this as a fact. thujone is in wormwood, or more commonly known, absinth (alchohol with wormwood ingedients)

 

I want to try that stuff (Absinthe)..

 

I'm so fucking stoned...

 

ive read reports of getting thujone extract, appeals to me more than having to get really pissed at the same time hehe

but you gotta get wormwood and thats not alllways easy