scarification

ok what about play piercing and suspention they are a ritual bodymod used to give a high level of concessness there are many reasons for ritual body mods,i agree some do act like that but what about those who dont?so the native americans who did suspentions where doing it to look "cool"? chrisians monks who whiped themselfs for attention?wether you like it or not bodymod have been used for thousands of years in every culture in one way or another for MANY reason most for a rilgious/spriual perpouse whats wronge with useing them for that?

 

the whole cutting thing is aorund my school too. and they think its cool to be suicidal (if they even really are) and i think they do it just for attention, and they think its cool to be all depressed as well. im talking about the kids that people call emo, or indi, or goth whatever they are i dont even know what to call them! haha i mean i dont care if they do that, but its stupid and not worth it, if they go too far, then they could die. They all like to wear black, die there hair black, where their hair all the same way, all act the same. but yet they call themselves individuals? I dont get it. But about that scarification thing, how do u do it without hurting urself? its boggling my mind haha. do u do it because of the scar? or the pain andhow it looks. doesnt the pain bother you haha. alright peace~

 

unless you numb the area with something there will be pain and even after the numbing agent wears off there will be pain so no matter what ther will be pain,also i think half the point it the pain the experiance of the pain plus like i said pain can be used in a ritual/spritual way,and i know what you mean by all the emo kids cutting but i hate when people stero type i think the emo kid and people like that who cut are idiots,there mom yelled at them to clean there room O GOD or teenage angest no one gets me!! its just pointless,but just stero typing is just as stupied,there is still a spritual element to it and some people use it for that reason and i think when they do there is nothing wronge with it

 

i dont think theres anything wrong with it if people do it for spiritual reasons, i think if they do it to get attention or because they think the world is against them thats rediculous, theres other ways to make yourself feel better haha. peace~

 

deadonceagain.... what i am interpreting from your posts is that you are considering not just scarification...but the liberating feeling of natrual endorphines that kick in when you are in pain. They give a person a place where they can 'go beyond pain' but obviously you have to trigger that response and that is where the self inflicted stuff comes in...If you find this expereience liberating and spiritual then great for you..i hope it brings you peace of mind and joy and freedom and clarity.

You know it is a strong theme of 'youth culture' though? and it has been a way for young people to express themselves..for a long time. Just look through music archives and see the lead singers who have consistently done the same thing.

personally from what ive seen the use of scarification in england...in this day, with young people..looks like a self loathing and attempt to destroy. that doesn't appear spiritual and free to me.

I think that the world you are growing up in is crazy...and you're getting given signals from all over the [place... people are killing each other in the name of god. and they're asking you to 'take sides' pople are paranois and delusional about whats right and wrong, and arent slighlty considering the message that is being sent to children..and the message is that they dont care about childrens growth and their values of perception.

this is jst my opinion..but i believe that if you are a sensitive person you will feel deeply effected by world events and want to help but not know how...that can be very upsetting and make you feel useless in comparison to what the world needs done.

imagine that you are a rare jewel who shines and reflects only with other special , rare jewels.. and then you will find those people who are also sensitive and concientious...i think that you are one of those types of people.. and to be honist there are not very many of them in the world, so please respect the fact that you are one of these insightful creatures and , being so rare.. its best for mankind that you presereve, polish, admire, and radiate this one in a million jewel.


i dint mean to get all metaphorical and story tellig there.. i hope you can tell that basically what im trying to say is that you are obvisouly an intelligent, sensitive, and unique person and i wish that you will admire and be aware of that as you have so much to offer us, of genuine value.

 

thank you for such a wounderful responce i agree with you i think the world today is so far gone people have lost the point to life,its how rich can i get,how much power can it get,what ever happend to just living, finding love not 100 "bitches" you can "fuck",a home which is a place of sacuary and not a 100000000 dollar house half of which you dont even use,exploring the human mind, philosphising(spelling?),growing your sprituality,people have lost tuch with these things,i see the all kids at my school most think reading is stupied they try to be as cool as posable by doing drugs which they know nothing about and are realy damaging there bodys,same with cutting today culture is so hateful,its all money, power and sex,there so much more then that,but im happy because i know im living for things forgotin and if i can i want to pass that to more people, you too are one of the few people that understand life

 

I definitly wouldnt call cutting a trend... ive been a cutter for over three years now and it was never anything that someone else did that i wanted to copy... it jus happened. i was ashamed to do it but it had a hold over me.. there are few people in my life who know about it.. because of my experiences with cutting, i would strongly disagree that it is a trend. eek, its pretty scary sometimes.

 

It looks like "emo-teen-angst cutting" and scarification design cutting are being grouped together when they are not. The angst cutting groups is mostly just depressed people trying to either A) seek attention B)find an escape from their "terrible life" or C) really need a nice new straight jacket.

The Scarification group wants the same thing people want when a person wants a tattoo. Thats the best way I can put it. I'm in this group. I am not looking for "pity me" attention, I just want a nice design. Plus, these are not permenent if not cut too deeply, so if you deside you messed up, it goes away on a year or so. I had a very nicely done pentacle on my fore-arm for a while. But also, if not moderated,and done frequently, this can become the "angst cutting" only with designs.

Well, I'm mostly just babbling now, so to get to the point. There is a difference. Angst Cutters need to seek help, the Scarification group, just let us be, we are mostly in our right mind. lol

one more thing, if you are going to leave a rude remark about my post because of my age, please, do as you mother told you, "If you can't say anything nice....."

 

lol.. no way would i remark about your age!!! the world has been spinning for what is it..400 billion years or something?!! i belive in reincarnation anyway.. that there we're souls inhabiting bodies.. so your soul could eons 'older' than me..as far as i know...

i think its cool you cleared up some stuff there... angst cutters, or artist medium...

i'll still say though...in my opinion, both are groups..and that means theres a common identity there..or belonging. and you don't see [that many] 50 year olds cutting or scarring while listening to rage, or whatver music you're into.

my symapathises are totally with you though.. when i was 14-16 not much was really up in the world...you guys are at that age of asserting indivudality when the world is completley paranoid and killing each other.. thats some crazy energy to be dealing with, along with the breaking away...

in my opinion what you are doing...is showing the older genrations.. look..you're teaching us to destroy humans and considering i am one.. i dont have to look any further than myself... thats what i think..and i'd like to be made more opne minded or understaing of the 'why's for this youth culture...if you could let me in as to some of the reasons...i'd really love to know.. thanks for reading...peace.

 

if i could ask you a question actually... what i;d really like to know is,

what effects do you think world events have had on your mental, creative, and emotional upbringing?

do you feel effected by the actions of these figure heads and their declerations?

thank you so myuch for reading this. peace

 

1: It only lets me know how stupid the world can be and how our nations are in the hands of war-mongers. Its really depressing...

2: Yes, and no. Yes because if our "figure heads" don't wise up...we're doomed.... and No because...well, I'm at the point were I think that if I just stay out of politics as much as possibble when I'm older....I can just ignore them within a certain extent.

 

thats cool.. thanks for the insight there.. it makes sense, what you say.