The Christ/Bible, in the light of Antroposophy

Discussion in 'Christianity' started by neometa, Oct 12, 2005.

  1. neometa

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    This is in my own words/speculation. The basic premise upon whcih The Christ is veiwed from antroposophic teachings, is based on the evolution of the ego. The parable of the prodigal son, would be a mirocosmic image, of this macrocosmic human de-evolution/evolutionary history. As in, leaving our Father's house and going into a far country, til the time would come for a returning unto our own spiritual senses, and therefore letting the celebration of our return, began.

    The ole song lyric, 'we are star-dust, we are golden, and we have to get ourselves..back to the garden', would fall, in a certain sense, within this paradigm. But I want to go back to the Luciferic fall, and insert the ancient maxim, 'as above, so below'.

    In Genesis 1:4 (or thereabouts), is where God 'divided the light from the darkness'. Question. Before God said, 'Let there be light'..what existed? Only darkness? What is being implied here? 1John says, 'God is light, and in him is no darkness at all'. I think it is highly doubtful I am refering to two different sources of light. Physical light, such as sun, moon and stars, did not come along til day 4 (however metaphorical this 'time' language appears). My own estimation is that this creative manifestation of light-being, that was separated from the darkness, was none other than that Being Jesus the Christ referred to himself as being, whenever he entitled himself as 'the Son of Man'. We do not first think of man as having divine origins before the fall of the first man Adam. Scriptural indicators can be found in John 3 where Jesus says, 'If I told you earthly things, and you believe not, how shall you believe, if I tell you of heavenly things? And no man has ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven'. Then link in Colossians 1:15-17 (sorry haven't time to quote it, but for this segment, 'Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature'. Also John 1:1 and following..'In the beginning was the Word' 'and the Word became flesh' and that 'he lights every man who comes into the world'.

    I gotta stop, I'll be back. meta
     
  2. MollyBloom

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    Cool stuff. Another interesting spin, maybe related to this, could be found in a book called


    The Mystic Christ by Ethan Walker


    peace
     
  3. neometa

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    Well, I got some loose ends to tighten up a bit:) Point 1. The first split/separation, that would serve as the Cosmic Causal back-drop for bringing about duality within the unity of the Godhead, resulted on the basis of when 'and God divided the light from the darkness'. That is, he divided the manifested created light, from his unmanifested, uncreated Self.

    Within this sphere of separated created light, was the Luciferic element able to draw upon self-conscious 'I will' forces, independent from God-consciousness that formerly pervading throughout His Will in all of his angelic creations. As God saw that is was good (the manifest Light)..Lucifer saw it was good as well and was able to will his will in self-exaltative measures in his rebellion. Then 'as above, so below'..Eve saw that the fruit was good..and the one with whom 'it was not good for man to be alone'.. yeilded to her wishes..and death entered, as if, within a cosmic dimensional shift..mans physical eyes were opened..as his spiritual eyes closed, and we've come to know of the split within our own 'I' perception..to know good and evil. This is known as the law of sin and death, that reigned over all descendants after the first man Adam.

    As the fall occurred through the disobedience of the one man Adam..so comes the spiritual quickening (so-called rapture) through the one man Jesus Christ. The apostasy (falling away from the fading splendor through the hardening of mans ego (I will)..will meet up with the apocalypse of Jesus Christ, when those prepared in takening the Christ Ego (I AM) into their own souls, to be imbued by the Christ Impulse..has sufficently worked its spiritual Seed to the awakening of mans spiritual organs once again..and so opening his spiritual eyes back unto those glorious heights from which we have fallen. .......and we got to get ourselves, back to the garrrr-den. Sing it Crosby, Stills and Nash! peace all, meta
     
  4. neometa

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    MollyB, I went over to Amazon and checked out the reveiws on that book. thanks. Then I came back here..went on a little rattle and hum..but got bumped off somehow. I'll get to it later. meta
     
  5. neometa

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    some thoughts today. It seems that on many fronts we're only touching the tip of the ice-berg. I think this both in terms of the sciences, as well as true spirituality. I use the word 'true' here, not in any superior sense, but alot passing off as spiritual, is really not all that spiritual in the progressive/prophetic sense of the word.

    Quantum physics (for one) is getting quite a bit of attention these days. Has anyone seen the flick 'What the Bleep do we know?'. Inspite of the rather enlightening senarios it portrays..in my thinking, it hardly even touches the tip of the iceberg. To put it simply. We were created spirit, soul and body (the I-being could also be considered). Everything to do with the physical world is only in association with our soul's being steeped in the physical. Only perceived through the physical sense gates. As revealing as Quantum physics is, in its discovery of the basic building blocks that pervade throughout all physical reality..it is still only limited to brain-bound observations. Interesting stuff, none-the-less.

    On the other hand, what has been passed down to us (particularly the christian venue) is very lacking in its notion of Christ's Body (Church) or even what it means to have faith as a spiritual discipline. For instance, gathering together to hear a sermon about Christ, is by-n-large only a soulish exercise in spiritual matters. Really, as long as the members in Christ's Body are held to a form of external occupation, is pretty much an indicator that the program is non-spiritual. Christ, for ourselves, is first an inward attentive proposition. In one place Paul puts it this way: 'Examine yourselves, whether you be in the faith. Know you not your own selves? How that Jesus Christ is in you? Except you be without spiritual understanding? I can resort to passage after passage on this, but I'll suppose you get the point.

    The point is, Christianity is still in its infantile stages, still groping in man-made darkness, trying to figure itself out by means of his ego and word/brain bound thinking. At 'Christ within, our hope of glory' expense I might add. The only way that I can see how explanational christianity can move into experiencial christianity, is for the teaching of scripture to move into the training of what it is saying. 'The letter kills, but the spirit gives life'. I regress. meta
     
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