does anyone here handle poisonous snakes?

that's something we're supposed to do to prove our christianhood

 

Rest assured. You don't have to handle snakes. I hope you don't.

There is nothing that you can do to prove your love for God because God already justified you through Jesus Christ.

If you really are worried about what you "need to do" as a good person in the world...and specifically a good Christian, look to the answer Jesus gives when the young man asks him what he must do to inherit eternal life:

Jesus answers "Love the Lord your God with all your heart and all your soul and all your mind, and love your neighbor as you yourself would like to be loved."

 

once again note..jesus did not mention loving jesus
he never once said he was god, he always said we are all gods children
he tried so many times to deny he was a god..it was men who made him into one
just like it was men who came up with the whole concept of god

 

So says the woman with ALLAH in her sig....

Muslims know NOTHING about Christianity

 

I don't know what you mean here. Please explain. (Do you think I'm Muslim?)

 

But I believe that Jesus was Christed because God had the hope of changing humanity through a human. Humanity living in sin or unenlightenment or ignorance, depending on what religious tradition you're coming from.

For me, Christianity sheds the most light on the subject of God and humanity. I really do think there is evil in the world that cannot be answered by simple theories of enlightenment. I think people have a great ability to do good, but, obviously, a great ability to do evil as well. This is why it seems to make sense to me that this evil is what strangulates our ability to be in right relationship with God, but the idea that God, through God's grace, experiences human suffering just to prove God's existence to me...and also preaches words of peace and tells me that I no longer need to worry about fulfilling every minutia of the previous religious rituals... that's comforting and liberating to me.

 

That is not true

 

Where'd you get that from?
There's not one piece of that post that was actually true.

Jesus WAS G-d, He said Himself:
" The Father and I are one "
" I came forth from G-d "
" Pray to the Father, the Son, and The Holy Spirit"
" Just Me and You, Father, are one"

etc. etc...


He tried to deny that He was G-d?
Than why did He not keep the people from worshipping Him?
Quote me ONE of those times when He denied being G-d, I'll be waiting.


Back on Topic:

It says that we are not to tempt the LORD our God. So if
we let ourselves be bit by snakes on purpose, guess what?
- you're on your way to the hospital.

Now, if it just so happens to bite us, nothing will happen.

 

Handling poisonous snakes is in reference to the in filling of the Holy Spirit. While Peter was in the wilderness, he was bitten by a snake, yet, suffered no ill effects. It was through the power of Christ's Spirit. Many mainstream Pentecostals miscontrue this verse. They handle snakes as a testament to their faith. This is in contradiction to Luke 4 (9-10) which states, "Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God!"

 

Yeah seriously... I am getting sick of people saying that Jesus did not claim that He was God. THEN why was He cruxified!?

 

he was a threat to the command and control patriarchal paradiggems

 

Does anyone here handle poisonous snakes?


Only when political candidates come knocking on my door!

 

The Gospel of Mark claims that a true christian should be able to do these things. These verses are according to the NT and other bibles fabricated... so this either proves their unvalidness as scholars them self say or that their are no real christians living today.

Ryu, he did most certainly deny being divine. The NT mentions him saying "that the father is greather than I" (anybody knowing the least of mathmetics knows that if a>b than a#b, it cant be that his both exacly like the father(God doesnt eat, jesus did etc) and at the same time lesser than him). He orders the people to worship God alone on several occasions, he denies being called good and its said that he said: " Do not call me good, ONLY God is good" (isnt this verse enough? Any 10 year old child understands that he is denying being divine.)

Its further said that he denies knowing the hour and that he is supposed to have said: "I can of my self do nothing" so why pray to one who cant do nothing for him self, little less for you? The few passages that seem to support this almost all have a root in Pauls views, a heretic who interpolated the teachings of Christ.

 

My snake spits out some venome but nobody has complained about it yet

 

if nobody is there to watch your snake spit, i can see why there aren't any complaints

 

How? Could you please demonstrate how Christ's teachings were disruptive or counter to ancient near east Judaism? Could you please cite where you got this information? Also, explain how the motivation for the priests petitioning the Romans for crucifixion moves from allegations of blasphemy and insurrection to claims of undermining a partiarchal paradigm? Where are the records of this?

Category mistake. Christ was (and is) positionally lower than the Father, but their essence is the same. Christ is not "exactly like" the Father, but Christ is of the same essence and nature. This fits perfectly well with ancient near east concepts of God. God (and not just the Jews believed this, it can also be found in Egyptian religions, for example) has attributes and some of those attributes have complete personhood. In this case, Christ claimed to be God's wisdom. In the same way that your own thoughts are positionally lower than you but still ontologically equal (they share your essence), Christ, as God's Wisdom personified, was lower than the Father in station, but ontologically equal. As mentioned above, the Jews understood this completely. Philo (~20 BC - ~50 AD), in fact, mentions that the appearance of God to Abraham (before the destruction of Soddom) is actually an appearance of three independent persons all of whom were God. Philo, for those who don't know, was an Alexandrian Jew.

The quote is "Why do you call me good, only God is good." When read through our western, low-context, individualist, guilt-innocence paradigm, we see it as saying "I am not God." When understood in light of context (the high-context, collectivist, honor-shame paradigm of those to whom he was speaking), it makes more sense to say that He was asking a rhetorical question and pointing out to them that they were equating Him with God. Notice that he did not chide or correct their conclusions.

Again, Christ is not positionally equal to the Father. That doesn't make Him not God, it simply makes Him not the Father. In the same way that your thoughts are incapable of action without your body, so Christ could do nothing without the Father granting Him the authority to do so.

 

You're weird.