What does the Atheist faith offer?

Could someone explain to me what exactly it offers. Your faith is strong, I can see that by the way you constantly affirm it as the truth, but what does it offer? Note that it does take faith to believe in Atheism because it has never been scientifically proven that (1) life can or did come into existence by random chance, and (2) one species can evolve into another species. Natural adaption has been observed within species but no species has ever been proven to evolve into another.

So, apart from your claim to truth (which takes faith) what do your beliefs offer?

From my understanding they result is -

Life is a random accident that has no meaning because we are not even meant to be here, and that you completely cease to exist upon death.

Some atheist say the meaning of life is to struggle for survival and reproduce.
To this I say "why"? What are you struggling for when eventually you are going to absolutely cease to exist. Endless reproduction of an accident (life, from an evolutionary point of view) is pointless.

If you truly have faith in atheism you believe yourself to be a meaningless accident in an indifferent universe. What motivates you to even get out of bed?

Much love.

 

RE: If you truly have faith in atheism you believe yourself to be a meaningless accident in an indifferent universe. What motivates you to even get out of bed?

You find your own reasons. That's what life is about.

What point would there be in getting out of bed if it's all about belonging to a certain club? "I believe that Jesus is my Lord and Saviour". *pause* Well, that's it then, welcome to eternity - (grabs pistol marked "this way to the great egress") no more point in being around, I've been saved BANG

 

"That's what life is about". But isn't life a meaningless accident, how can it be about something if it is meaningless?

Life is meaningful with faith in Jesus; living to glorify God and to spread the Good News of salvation. Death becomes something to look forward to, but not something to rush into.

 

Faith is a loaded word, full of irrelevant connotations.

I would describe atheism more as Recognition of Probability. The probability that since there is no apparent or categorical evidence pointing to the existence of God, one would be 'safe' (in consideration of probability) to assume the non existence of a supernatural omni* being.

Atheism does nothing to assign meaning. There is no direct or certain philosophy derivative of atheism either. Its more a starting place or base perception of reality. From there you are on your own to create your own meaning and evaluate your own environment.

Once you accept your natural position in the universe, it is less an arrogant attempt to feel SPECIAL, and more an attempt to just live life, be happy, enjoy other people, and enjoy the immence pleasures of life.

Overall, the purpose of my life is to feel happy, because it is enjoyable. This is not an inconsiderate hedonism, because my happiness is inseperably tied to my ethics, empathy, goals, and relationships.

I would say your attachment to the idea that you are a purpose driven creation of an ever loving being is #1 just plain silly, and #2 a futile, arrogant, and blind exercise in egoism.

 

You make the meaning. Yer meaning's to spread the word of Hay-Zeus. Mine's to have as much fun, and have as big an impact on this world as possible.

 

a kick to your face

 

it may not have been proven that everything evolved naturaly. but all evidence sure does overwhelmingly point that way & absolutely no evidence supports any sort of creation nonsence.
athiesm is freedom from blind faith, believing not bases on what was written in 1 book thousands of years ago by people with very little understanding of the universe (earth is flat, stars revolve around earth..dragons & demons & giants..oh my)
athiest believe only what can be sen, & touched & understood with logic, therefore they dont need to shut off the logical parts of theyre brains in order to understand the nature of the universe
why get up in the morning? life is no less beautiful or worth living just cause theres no invisible man to save us, after all athiests have no need to be saved, your good for the sake of being good & love livimg because every momment offers possibilities..

 

That too, bud.

 

Atheism is not a faith. It is a disbelief in theism.

Secular Humanism is probably what you are looking for, Butch.

www.secularhumanism.org

 

The disbelief in something is still a belief, and therefore takes faith.
To believe there is no God takes faith; you can question this belief.

 

^he's got a point

 

So then am I correct in saying that to the atheist life has no meaning apart from what you give it; you can give life it any meaning you want but whatever you come up with will be a fantasy even though it seems real to you. So you (atheists) keep the fantasy up all through life and try not to think about death to much because that is where the absolute meaninglessness of life is thrust through your fantasy.

 

Newp, you sir are incorrect.

There is no fantasy in an atheist's meaning of life. that is the whole point.

The act of giving meaning to your life results in feelings of satisfaction. There is nothing fake about it.

You are not one to be talking about fantasy, as you have no qualm in disregarding rationality for a silly belief in an invisible man in the sky.

 

Hmm, what? Yes, we assign ourselves meaning, but everyone does that, not just atheists. And why call it a fantasy? Calling our self-actualization a fantasy is calling reality a fantasy. And what, we try not to think about death, cuz if we do we'll just be so depressed about our meaningless existance that we'll nip off and shoot ourselves, is that it? I've pondered death many a time. I suppose most atheists think about death a tad more than most theists do, what with having to work out the machinations of existance and non-existance for themselves rather than referring to an old book. Death is a natural progression of life. It's inevitable. But that doesn't mean I have to fear it, or try to cast it back from whence it came. I understand that one day, I will die. I just hope it's not in the near future, cuz there's still alot of shit I want to get done on this planet.

 

RE: You can give life it any meaning you want but whatever you come up with will be a fantasy even though it seems real to you.

Awwww, how cute.

You've been pwned a couple times already won't kick you while you're down.

 

Alright, thanks for the discusion and your opinions

 

good day

 

The disliking of something is still a liking.
The discontinuing of something is still a continuing.
The disagreeing of something is still an agreeing.

Apparently, just like all Christians, you confuse (a)theism with (anti-)theism.

I disbelief your claim of the existence of "god".- ATHEISM
I oppose your claim of the existence of "god". - ANTI-THEISM

I, personally, am a secular humanist, atheist and an anti-theist (now more than ever). However, you claimed "Atheism" is a faith. It is the OPPOSITE of faith. It is a "not faith". You know, like a "Not Miller Lite".

 

O man, a "not millerlite", making the analogy of theism is to atheism what miller lite is to "not miller lite."

Why couldn't you have picked "Not Sierra Nevada Pale Ale" or "Not VictoryHopDevil" ? Perhaps because I'm a theist, I'm fighting to be equated with decent beer.

 

sierra nevada is the grossest beer i have ever drank. its piss.