Stoner Stupid

Least Competent Criminals.
Sonja Aguirre, 18, was arrested in Greenwood Village, Colo., in March when, while allegedly carrying 265 pounds of marijuana worth an estimated $500,000, she decided to save a few steps and park in a handicap space.
And Edgar Galvan, 28, and Jose Clark, 27, were arrested in Orlando, Fla., in July when, though allegedly carrying 550 pounds of marijuana, they nonetheless hauled it in an SUV with an expired license plate.
And, according to police in Dayton, Ohio, in August, a man and a teenager, who were intending to rob a marijuana-growing couple, were arrested shortly beforehand when they tried to save a few bucks by shoplifting pantyhose (to wear as disguises in the robbery) from a Rite Aid drug store. [WKMG-TV (Orlando)-AP, 7-20-05] [KMGH-TV (Denver), 3-31-05] [Dayton Daily News, 8-20-05]

 

One crime at a time, my friends.

 

cant get much more stupid than that.

 

thats funny shit

 

Why do the dumbest criminals have the most weed?

 

they dont. the dumbest criminals have only a few hundred pounds at most. the most well-off criminals in the drug business are importing/exporting thousands of pounds at a time. most do not get caught. its the people working their way up to bigger things like that, but just aren't good enough to cut it, that get caught with 200-500 lbs....

 

if these stories aren't bulls***, than that is some stupid s***. However, i must praise these people spreading cannabis into our country because without them, we sure wouldn't have as much mj. On the other hand, if all they have is schwag and mids then i say f*** that because schwag is disgusting and dank is wonderful.

 

haha... good stories

 

well we wouldnt have to deal with the all the crime if they just legalized it...

 

thats like saying there would be less crime if we legalized murder. sure, the crime rate would go down, but there would still be murder.

"crime" is a relatively meaningless label stuck to certain things to give us an idea of what society feels about them and how its dealt with.

not to say i think marijuana should be illegal, but saying there would be "less crime" is meaningless.

however, certain drug related crimes that have nothing to do with victimless actions such as manufacture, distribution, possession or use of a drug COULD be reduced by legalization. for instance, if heroin and crack were legalized, there would be a reduction in the number of robberies, burglaries, and prostitution violations because cheap, clean drugs would be made available through government licensed distributors.

 

no victim no crime my friends

 

You dont understand the idea of less crime with legalizing marijuana. Basically all marijuana related problems are because of the fact that its illegal to sell and posess. Not because marijuana in itself is any sort of crime maker, its the laws that surround marijuana that make it a crime maker. If marijuana were legalized, there would be huge profit potential in it, coffee shops etc would open, im sure even growing companies would spring up. There no longer would be any shady underground surrounding marijuana. There would be no crime then, except people stealing marijuana.

 

you havent said a god damn thing i didnt already say. marijuana involves crime because its illegal. it's illegal and therefore a crime. period. people don't generally steal, rob, and kill each other for a fucking bag of pot, thats other drugs. "crime" is just a label we put on an action. the only reason "crime" is associated with marijuana is because the government has declared anything to do with marijuana a crime. saying there would be less crime simply by legalizing marijuana is like saying there would be less crime if we legalized stealing. there would be fewer crimes, but ONLY because fewer things would be "criminal" in nature to begin with.

 

I agree whole heartedly. I also think that legalizing weed would cut down on the use of other drugs. The reason I say this is because when someone buys weed they come in contact with people that try to sell them cocaine and heroin and other drugs, and they consider using these drugs over time and eventually decide to try it. Where as, if weed was legal, people would not even have to see these drugs or be solicited to buy these drugs because they could purchase marijuana in stores or coffeeshops or just grow thier own.

 

I dunno nesta.. it sounded to me like you were comparing murder, robbing, and pot smoking. If we legalize murder and robbing, they might be legal under the eyes of the law, but would still be crimes against humanity. You would be directly affecting another in a negative way. Whenever the pot laws are finally repealed, nobody will be affected that way. Pot smoking is not an immoral and unethical activity. It is only illegal under man's law.

 

i did compare marijuana to murder or theft. according to the government they are all criminal. thats the ONLY way they are alike. imo, no, marijuana is different, its not "bad" or "wrong" the way theft and murder generally are. but it IS still a crime.

the only reason we can call marijuana smoking criminal is that the government makes it a crime.

the only reason we can call murder criminal is that the government makes murder a crime.

are they the same? no. are they even in the same ballpark? no.

but saying that legalizing one or another would reduce crime is rediculous pro-drug propaganda and the establishment would realize it as such. you need to be able to argue for the benevolence of marijuana, not simply make obvious statements about the correlation between legalizing things and lower crime rates.

pot smokers, as a group, have only ONE criminal behavior in common: smoking pot.

murderers, as a group, have only ONE criminal behavior in common: murder.

a legalization of either will significantly reduce the number of criminals in the country. that is NOT an argument for legalization, it's a statement of blindingly obvious fact that no cop could dispute, or even want to. but its also a statement that doesn't advance the cause, thats all i'm saying.

 

You're forgetting about all the organized crime that takes place because of the mj prohibition. Crime would be reduced. It is the same thing as the alcohol prohibition. If people could grow their own cannabis, or obtain it through a legal open market, other crimes would be reduced. Shady drug dealers would not rob the consumer, people would not be killed to keep the cops from hearing about their activities, and it goes on. If you legalize something like murder, people lacking a conscience would take advantage of the lack of legal repercussions.

I respect your well thought out opinion, but I completely disagree.

 

When did this turn into a crime agruement, again? Just out of the blue it goes from talking about stupid people to argueing about prohibition.

 

Because the laws of marijuana is related to their arrests..

 

Just seemed kinda random...