Che Guevara

Discussion in 'People' started by Bocks, Oct 2, 2005.

  1. IntenseHeat

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    thank you now go ahead and hang out with your communist buddie and tell her to tell Fidel and Chavez i say HELLO.
     
  2. Communism

    Communism Member

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    No comprendo.

    What money, what supplies, and to where were they sent?

    The Soviet Union had spies infiltrating the guerilla group in Bolivia. It's denial of facts to think Guevara and the USSR were on 'good terms'.
     
  3. spasticsofa

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    Yes or no - you are a 17 year old from Canada? I want to verify my predicting powers.
     
  4. IntenseHeat

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    Spa i dont think she well answer.
     
  5. Communism

    Communism Member

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    This is not a court, and you are not a prosecutor. I will only answer what I want to answer. And I expect you to stick to the topic. Age or location of one of the forum members has little relevance when it comes to discussing
    Ernesto "Che" Guevara.
     
  6. _chris_

    _chris_ Marxist

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    The definition of communism is not what parties that call themselves communist do. Communism can be found in a book by Marx and Engels. If a capitalist government started eating babies heads, would that mean that the definition of capitalism is eating babies heads? i think not. Communism is a system just as capitalism is, and it has its merits, just as capitalism does, and it is not defined by what 'communist' parties do. Hell, if that kind of logic worked, then the definition of a buliding could be 'something which falls down' as a building has fallen down once before. your sense of logic is up your ass dude, try taking it out and giving it an inspection.
     
  7. Communism

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    _chris_ nailed it.

    And spasticsofa, When you start discussing and "accusing" fellow debaters, you are only showing how you have lost.
     
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  9. Communism

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    You are taking this from a Cuban exile site, don't you?

    It has a few categories: "Castro-Terrorism", "Castro's Gulag", "Where is the blockade", "Photos Racism". The last mentioned category is a picture of two white policemen talking to two black persons (see picture). Talk about racism!!!
    [​IMG]

    I would really suspect the only one being racist is the author of that website, as he see the world in racial terms. Christ, they caption says:
    "MORE RACIST THAN THE OLD SOUTH AFRICAN REGIME"


    The author apparently "forgot" that capitalist, pre-revolutionary Cuba was essentially an apartheid, where people of African and Spanish descent were seperated, and White people favoured upon black people. When the rebel group led by Fidel Castro, Ernesto Guevara and others entered Havana after several years of guerilla warfare, the racist laws under US backed Batista, were removed. But the United States, who favoured oppression of blacks, bombed Cuba. Possibly not because of the liberation of coloured people, but because of economic interests in Cuba. Remember that Cuba was essentially a colony of the U.S. up until 1959?

    The author apparently "forgot" that Cuba was one of the key-factors of the collapse of South Africa: Cuba sent some 30-40 000 soldiers to Angola to fight against South Africa who were spreading it's imperialism across Africa. US backed South Africa eventually retreated. Many experts have claimed that Cuba's assistance in Angola helped bring down and perhaps shortened the South African apartheid by approximately 20-30 years.

    Then the site tries desperately to protray Cuba as a nation without free education. No, apparently it doesn't deny the free educational system in Cuba. That would be silly, even the author knows! No, it talks about how there is no private schools in Cuba. So repressive! No rich kids going to private schools! Horrible.

    The site describe Ernesto Guevara as an "Argentinean mercenary who went to Cuba to murder his compatriots".

    If you want to bring up an argument against Che, maybe you shouldn't do the opposite :)
     
  10. SeamusHeaney

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    Spasticsofa and Gilligan are entirely correct.

    Communism, I will be honest with you, since everyone else has been proving you to be a total idiot with intellectual reasoning, I will not bother trying to come across as dignified... You are a cock gobbler.

    I hope you die of cancer.

    I bid you good day.
     
  11. Jim Colyer

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    I just watched "The Motorcycle Diaries." It was produced by Robert Redford in 2004. It was an okay film but not great.
     
  12. _chris_

    _chris_ Marxist

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    is this an 'i hope communists die of cancer' kind of thing? because if it is, it just renders you an absolute fucking ****.
     
  13. El_Qwerty

    El_Qwerty Banned

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    Che was a Left-Wing terrorist. The Osama bin Laden of Latin American Socialism.

    If your a Socialist, and you think it's okay to cause murder & mayhem to further your ideals, then Che is a hero to you.
     
  14. *Ewan*

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    So, whats your ideology? You ever admired anyone who used a weapon?
     
  15. El_Qwerty

    El_Qwerty Banned

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    A 15 year old Communist?

    Oh man, you have no idea just how naive you are.
     
  16. *Ewan*

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    oh here we go....

    no straight anwers, just the old you know nothing talk.
     
  17. El_Qwerty

    El_Qwerty Banned

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    Because it's not worth my time and energy to argue on the internet with a kid who doesn't know better.
     
  18. *Ewan*

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    Well i'm not gona argue with a religous person, you obviously dont know better than to believe in a fictional entity. You call me a dreamer, but you believe in spirits in the sky?
     
  19. El_Qwerty

    El_Qwerty Banned

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    Were did I ever say I was a religious person?

    Not even close.
     
  20. *Ewan*

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    Says your a pagan in your profile.
     

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