ok you pill heads....i'm curious as to how much more effective oxycodone is supposed to be than hydrocodone. a guy i know is selling vicodins (10mg hydro) and percocets (5mg oxy) both for 5 dollars a peice. high price, but what can you do. anyway, i dont fool around with opiates often at all (took three of the percs the night before last, other than that i havent done painkillers in over a year) and i was just wondering - if i were looking to be money conscious, should i have bought the vicodins? i know oxycodone is supposed to be more effective, but the hydrocodone is double the milligrams for the same price....just sounds like unless hydrocodone is REALLY weak compared to oxycodone, i should have gone with the vicodins....
Our US gov. believes oxycodone is stronger. They place oxycodone (all forms) as a schedule II controlled substance while they place pills that contain <= 15mg of hydrocodone w/ active non-narcotic (e.g. acetaminophen, ibu, antihistamine) ingredient as schedule III. Although pure hydrocodone is schedule II just like oxycodone, it is not available at all in the US. Therefore, percocets, which contain the non-narcotic active ingredient acetaminophen are still schedule II. Btw, schedule II basically means stronger which explains why schedule II opiates include oxycodone, fentanyl, sufentanil, meperidine, and other strong opiates whereas weaker opiates like hydrocodone and codeine comb. pills are schedule III. But that is just the government perspective. People ask me to sell them 7.5/500 lortabs (which i say no to everytime) when they can get 5mg percs. But you have a choice between 5/325 percs and 10/660 hyrdocodones (vicodin HP). I would say go with the percs. oxycodone is probably stronger. Even though the percs have less narcotic dosage, you must remember that the less acetaminophen, the less liver damage.
i know the scheduling program, and i know how to extract the opioids from the pills without much of the APAP. i'm curious as to what experienced users would chose given these dosages, which would have more of a narcotic effect. i'm not concerned about other ingredients, etc. etc.
pretty sure that hydrocodone mg for mg is about the same strength as oxycodone. maybe one over the other but not a whole lot
alright, thanks....(wishing i'd bought the hydrocodones now, but he's out of pills...oh well, i shouldnt do that shit anyways!)
I think oxy is a little stronger but pretty close that they can be compared mg to mg. Oxy shouldnt go over 50 cents a mg so yea you are geting much of a better deal geting the norco's(10 hydros). Also, Oxy and hydro's have a very different high, I think hydros are more mellow and oxy are more of a strong rush, well maybe thats cause I always snort oxys . But you shouldnt be asking us, it depends on the person and what kind of buzz they like better. I like any opiate, I took hydros every day for months and months and the same with oxys, it depends on your choice.
oxy is a little stronger in my own personal experiences, but i think there both good so either choice is good
I always found that oxycodone is more jaded, and an in your face type of high, while hydrocodone is more relaxing and a backround type of thing. I don't know if that makes any sense, but it's just what i've found out. I'd go for the hydrocodone, personally.
i've done both in various amounts in the past, and i've personally got some perceived differences between the two that have been pretty close to what you guys have said, but i never really paid much attention to dose (until last time, i'd mostly usually only ever took what my gf at the time recommended, shes the one i always did opiates with and she was much more knowledgable about it than me, and never steered me wrong, so i trusted her judgment....i knew what i was taking, and at the time knew the dosage, but it was a while ago and i forget about this stuff largely) anyway, i always felt hydrocodone was good and oxycodone was good, they seemed pretty similar to me, but i always thought that oxycodone was a bit more in-your-face as well.....also, while i thought they felt pretty fucking similar, hydrocodone also seemed to have given me a tad more nausea in the past than oxycodone. i couldn't describe either one as NOT being relaxing, but i always sort of liked the more "hardcore" feeling of oxycodone....i dunno, i'm sure MUCH of it has to do with what the dosage at the time may have been. like i said, i didnt pay TOO much attention to it. anyway, after that 15mg oxy night, which was a bit too much when i added the little bit of alcohol and lot of pot, i really wanted whatever pills i could get the next few days. when i found out my guy was out of pain killers and somas, i sank so low as to steal two of my mother's prescribed muscle relaxants....cyclobenzaprine...not great, but pretty nice, get 20mg, just a little to drink, and a joint....nice way to end a long day, relaxed and eventually drifting off to sleep. i feel very ashamed for taking medicine from my mother like that so i could just get high. yeah, i've grown to love pharmaceuticals..... but i've got an addictive personality, have alcoholism and dependence on things like coke, pot, and painkillers on both sides of my family which until recently i was largely unaware of, except for one particular uncle. i've come to terms over the past few weeks that i have a drug problem, and am a generalized "addict" even if i do not have a hardcore addiction to any specific drug other than nicotine and a strong marijuana dependence. i've spent some time worrying about myself and thinking things over, and i've come to the conclusion that yeah, there is some very strong temptation, and i would LOVE more painkillers, muscle relaxants, benzodiazapines or general sedatives...but...despite the fact that i'm not addicted to one specific type of these things, i have great potential to develop one, and i already have a drug problem of sorts as it is. i think i need to take a while to reexamine whats really important to me, and where my life is really going, and i know i'm not going to quit smoking pot, but i need to try and cut out almost everything else, at least for a long while. i love drugs in general as long as they aren't stimulants. psychedelics and pot have always been my forte, but lately i've just been taking whatever comes my way that may be even a little bit pleasant to me. i just think i need to be more careful, and i'm even thinking of checking out a 12-step program or something, like AA. i've heard good things about it from a friend of mine that used to shoot a lot of dope. i know right now i'm not giving up my herb, and i still will have a few beers every once in a while (not often at all, really, i'm not much of a drinker), but i think perhaps going to a few meetings will give me some much needed perspective, and maybe help me meet some new friends i can relate to, but that i DONT have to be getting fucked up with all the time. i dunno....i dont regret almost anything i've tried, except cigarettes. but my lack of self control can easily catch up with me....i just think i need to live a little more cleanly. i think that while psychedelics have benefitted me a lot, i've gotten to the point where i'm even at risk of becoming destructive with them. i just need to slow down and take a look at myself, you know? i dunno...i'm rambling, and i know it....just getting some things off my chest.....kind of been in a real rut, real down and out lately....and not just a little bit scared of myself.
Nesta, even while 'rambling', your posts are still among the most informative, helpful and accurate on these boards.
thank you very much. i can't say i dont think i have a decent bit of generalized knowledge, experience and opinion to offer, but i think there are definitely more well educated and informed people here, just most of them dont post as often as me see my addictive personality? i'm on here all the time! anyhow, thanks for the compliment. i just sort of write in a stream of consciousness style.....sort of..... i've talked to my mother about a lot of this, and talked to a one of my best friends and another person, listened to what they had to say, and at least for the past few days have been living a pretty clean life. quitting smoking cigarettes (again ) and not even being able to afford pot....though i still need some benedryl to put me to sleep at night....but oh well.... i'm feeling much better about things now, at any rate still need to keep on trucking though
yea man, only thing to do is to keep on going, think positive and you should come out alright..always worked for me through all the bullshit
Hey, nesta, i applaud you for realizing that you have an addictive personality ( I do as well) and not only realizing the poetential for harm but having the intelligence to make an informed decision based on that. Anywhos, if you are going to get addicted to anything, i might suggest that benzos are not for you. My mom got hooked on Xanax and the withdrawls were a terrible month-long bitch-from-hell experiences. Stay away from benzos, opiate withdrawl is a little easier, but still a major mind-fuck.
Hello, I currently have a prescription for oxycodone every month from a pain clinic for severe back pain. At the end of each month I run down to one or two pills and get very nervous. The pain clinic gives urine tests regularly and I don't really want to break the rules. I have a few leftover vicodens from another prescription and my question is whether I would get in trouble with the urine test if I took them.. many thanks
Nah Oxy compared to Hydro. Oxycodone is acually roughly about twice as strong as Hydrocodone. So in all reality the 10mg Vicodin and 5mg Percocet being the same price is acually equal in price and strength. So if the Percocet acually did have less tylenol, you in MY opinion, made a good choice.
As long as you have a prescription they can't really tell you "hey your not aloud to take what your doctor prescribed to you..." Plus if you get drug tested I'm about 90% both Hydro and Oxy both come up as the same on a drug test. Hope this helps...
See my sticky thread at the top of this sub forum's page for an in depth comparison of all of the common opioids.
