semi christian girl interested in hindu guy

wait, what about the fact where bible scholars said this world is the center of the universe? we now know that there are thousands of galaxies etc... this world can't possibly be the center of the universe.

 

Of all the interesting words youve uttered, these are the most beautiful!
For the record, this is my first post(first real "visit" aswell) here on the hinduism forum (and ive been here for 2 years)...

 

we are the one

 

does Christ have a bank? Lord Krishna does

 

Yo MollyTheHippy... what kind of bank do you mean? If its material, then no, well if its trancendental then of course , remember Christ tells us that our treasures are in heaven, not on earth where moths eat them or robbers steal them or rust. Most definately Christ has a bank for all who believe in him, Christ is not materialistic He need no bank on earth, but you could start him one if you wish, ...bit hey dont discriminate welcome everyone and make working conditions a piece of cake, not a labour farm where people are exploited because of marketability of all things with spiritual significance...as may be happening right now as we post.

peace and love
xxx
muahh

 

i went to a Hare Krishna centre and guess what some brother told me? their scriptures recognise Christ as the saint Ishu, and the bible as a purana!!! i was flabbergasted when some other guy went ahead to tell me that Christ is a yogi and tried to deny His divinity...ever since that day about a year ago i am rather skeptical, there is a way in which everything divine is incorporated in to add more juice to Hinduism, i mean claiming all good to be vedic and non-good unvedic, so am just keeping all my info input devises at red alert.

ps : Christ has given by far the simplest way te redemption, just have faith with action, and LOVE crowns it all, you dont need churches temples sacrifices , all that materialistic crap that capitalist adherents of scripture so subtly demand for these days.

pss; And as for the girl in love with the Hindu guy, dont forget that his religion is his culture and his culture is Partriarcal, so get ready to face some rough times via the Gender issue, and besides Christ is not sexist His ministry reaches out to the wretched and oppressed i.e. women and widows and orphans, and also the issue of racism, if your skin tone is honey or darker...just give up those guys are so far desroyed when it comes to issues of the caste system, but if you white its ok(i dont know why). refer to Srimad Bhagavatam, where AC Bhaktividanta in one his purports, says that a woman is inferior and so can not rule refering to why the sikh still call their rulers simha or singh..i think here it was due to something concerning Prahlad Maharaj or something, am not quite sure.


Molly you are very right, as a christian am like the GOOD THIEF, all i do daily is to ask Christ to remember me daily, but that means i have to live morally ,but today we have soooo many damning versions of the bible that if you were to catalogue all your sins i tell you you'd commit suicide. personally i know the history of Bible editing and for that matter i know that i dont have to believe all thats written in there..some of them things are just rules and regulations for a Group of of ex slaves trying to free themselves thats why i believe in the freedom Christ gives.

please dont quote me i had just taken a sneak peak at the book, and besides if we atre all spirit souls why is it that those Hindu women are so oppressed by their religious leaders? some of them are not recognised outside the kitchen and the nursing room.
You have to be willing to sacrifice alot.

peace and love
xxx
muaahhh

 

Umbra, please dont take ISKON to be anywhere near representative of Hinduism. The teaching of Prabhupada is sadly contradictory in several places, often blatantly mistranslating scriptures. Im not sure if Christ was mentioned in the puranas, although most Hindus have no problem considering him an avatar. The puranas were written by great saints and based on what was revealed to them during meditation, but they themselves admit that the manifestations of the lord are countless. And in the end, nobody can deny the divinity of christ or of anything created, we are all divine, coming from one divine source.

 

christ is not mentioned in the puranas... bhaktivedanta swami gave a spin on jesus' teachings to be similar to his own... as is quite common among so many yogic teachers who are trying to appeal to a western audience

 

I believe christ did teach vedanta, all religions teach the same principle.

 

Maybe not an intentional "spin"...this makes it sound intentionally dishonest. You've got to realize that these Hindu spiritual teachers are coming from the context of their own very ancient traditions...fundamentalist Christianity is as alien to them as Hinduism is to Christians...they're not going to see Jesus in the same absolute way. Hindus at least accept Jesus as a very important spiritual figure, even if he's not specifically referred to in Hindu scripture...in fact Bhaktivedanta Swami referred to him as a saktavesya-avatar, or specially empowered incarnation. Paramahansa Yogananda wrote extensively about the importance of Jesus and often referred to his teachings and the Bible. Christians generally reject any scripture other than the Bible and deny the credibility of any spiritual teacher except Jesus.

 

There are great disimilarities between Prabhupada's line and the teachings of Christ. Even basic things like diet - there is a 100% disagreement. Also Jesus said not to use repetitive prayers - the whole basis of Prabhupadism.

 

Can you say where? In which sayings of Jesus does he teach vedanta?

 

i would say intentional spin as in no place does jesus teach anything similar to a bhakti yoga type reverence to a deity that parabhupada taught... prabhupada in a very straight forward no bones way taught that his hare krishna movement was intended to be the revelation of jesus' ministry and that jesus himself came from brahmaloka and was a mystic yogi... personally i have no problem with speculation on "will the jesus please stand up" but i think it gets ludicrous when folks go "goo ga ga" over every word that comes out of a guru mouth and worship those words as the absolute truth without giving it any thought

and prabhupada's teachings weren't ancient... they are a relatively modern twist by a radical religionist, bhaktisidanta saraswati prabhupada, a fundementalist reformer and prabhupada's own guru who went out of his way to offend every religionist of his day including his own brother whom he called his great enemy

prabhupada's ministry itself has a quality of trying to one up his own godbrothers as he became infuriated when any of his disciples went to their maths to hear the teachings and called his godbrothers all envious snakes

prabhupada also said women had 1/2 the intelligence of men due to some group in calcutta that weighed the brains of each and then his disciples went around teaching this crap as gospel

anyways, prabhupada got some folks to chant Hare Krishna and that's cool but as long as folks maintain these offenses while chanting, not a whole lotta of benefits

Paramahamsa Yogananda was cool

 

ditto... jesus didn't stuff his followers with flour and sugar

 

Yeah - I'm not saying who's right or wrong where diet goes - I think it's a personal choice - just pointing out some of the differences. But I'll just add that many ISKCON people don't know themselves why they are forbidden from certain foods, mushrooms for instance - at least, they couldn't tell me when I asked them once.

I'm surprise he even allowed women 50% of male intelligence!
But actually, that's also a classic example of SP's particular brand of double-think. It's said on one hand that 'we are not the body', that one shouldn't think one can judge someone by their body. We are spiritual beings.....ah but - brain weight determines intelligence!
I rest my case.

 

I am in you as you are in me and I am in the Father.

I am the light of the world. John 8:12

Ye are the light of the world. Matthew 5:14

In hebrew 12:2 Jesus is described as "who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross." The one who crucified his flesh, his limited self, in order to gain the highest joy.

It is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire. Mark 9:14

The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light. Matthew 6:22

If thy whole body therefore [be] full of light, having no part dark, the whole shall be full of light, as when the bright shining of a candle doth give thee light.Luke 11:36

If those who lead you say to you, "See, the Kingdom is in the sky," then the birds of the sky will precede you. If they say to you, "It is in the sea," then the fish will precede you. Rather, the Kingdom is inside of you, and it is outside of you. When you come to know yourselves, then you will become known, and you will realize that it is you who are the sons of the living Father. But if you will not know yourselves, you dwell in poverty and it is you who are that poverty. The Gospel of St Thomas.




This is just a few quotes, which can easily be understood in the light of advaita vedanta, without any great stretch of imagination. Indeed, without that context, they can easily be refuted by logic.

 

No doubt they can be interpreted in that light - but in and of themsleves, non is really a statement of non-dual reality.
Also, christians interpret these statements quite differently.

As we've seen here before, many things can be interpreted in various ways - nursery rhymes even. That doesn't mean that the meanings we read into things are necessarily there in the original.

The Gospel of St. Thomas is a gnostic and not a christian text.

 

Yes your correct BlackBillBlake, I guess words can just about be interpreted in any light. But I do tend to agree with Bhaskar, I personally think Jesus's teachings are a veiled indication of a non-dual reality. He probably had to do this because of the mentality of the people he was teachings. IMHO.

 

its better to date someone of your own religon or so i have herd because then the pepole are more spirtually connected.

 

Don't you think though that people should be flexible and not dogmatically fixed in their beliefs? It's not that people have to be fixed all life long in one belief - that would mean no chance of any expansion of one's viewpoint.
In the end, the original question asked in this thread all comes down to love in my opinion. If you love someone, it doesn't matter what religion they are - love can cross these boundaries.

Put a group of naked people into a room, and then tell me which is which religion.They all look pretty much the same human beings to me.