The Aftermaths of a Great Experience....

The aftermaths of extasy aren't normally that bad but this time they hit me horribably...I would never have imagined that something so great can have such awful setbacks...I mean I have swallowed a couple of times before but the aftermaths weren't so bad, just the knockout of the day after and a bit of insomnia, but that's all...But this time..Oh God!!....I went to this rave like a week and a half ago and it wasn't until a couple of hours ago did I recover fully from the effects of the setbacks...wow!...I swallowed a couple of pills a good suitable amount and I enjoyed evey moment of it then the next day I was knocked out, which is normal...but then all of a sudden I got so depressed...It was uncontrolable...I got into this deep state of depression where I just couldn't stop crying...I lost my apetite and hope for everything...it was horrible...I mean in the back of my head I sort of knew that it was the effects of the pills but even so it was uncontrolable..and the more alone I was the worst...It first began with the flashbacks, which didn't let me sleep...cause on top of it all I had insomnia...I couldn't sleep for shit...even though that's happened before but the stage of depression that followed never occured to me before..I mean I have felt a bit down the next day and all before and cried a bit but never for so long and so hard..It hit me real hard.....It was unbelievable...I'm still traumatized by it....I'm over it now sort of cause I still feel a little down but nothing like the past week...It was awful...I don't know what's happening to me....But thinking about it, I just remembered..I should've seen it coming cause I was feeling a bit down before them so I should've suspected it...I think it had such an effect on me probably cause I was carrying a bit of an emotional issue inside me that I never quite let out...and on top of it all I had some problems that I had unsolved...it's all complicated....All I know is that next time I'll make sure I clear my head real good before swallowing..and not commit the mistake I did this time..since now I know that they are starting to effect me like this now...And on top of it all I have muscle pain..which seals the whole thing....

 

what goes up must come down

 

Yeah but not in such a horrible way.....I mean it really knocked me out....that just isn't normal......I think i have to check myself out..there must be something seriously wrong with me..... .....I'll have to check that out.....

 

yikey crikey...

how often do yo generally roll?
how many pills per session?
do you pre-load with supplements & such? (---> 5-HTP, vit C, melatonin, a-lipoic acid, magnesium/calcium, maybe some paxil, etc...)
do you take other drugs while rolling (pot, coke, speed, vicks inhalers, tobacco, G, K, etc?)

i would recommend taking an extended break from doing any drugs (especially more X) --- like at least a couple/few months...

do you visit any of the mdma-related websites & bulletin boards?

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take it easy, mmmkay? ya wanna try to make this CNS last the full three-score & ten, right? so, ya gotta pace yrself...

 

Ive never done E, mostly only smoke weed. Im sure E is fun and all at the time...but damn! The after effects just dont seem worth it dude. If its going to cause you physcolgical problems, maybe u should just stick to weed and give the "party drugs" a break.

 

But just because the aftermaths hit me so bad it doesn't mean that the same will happen to you...I mean no everyone reacts the same...and apart from that I had emotional issues when I did it so that had a big influence.....You could still try it....just don't take too many pills...cause the more you take the badder are the aftermaths.....and make sure if you are gonna do it to clear your mind and be free from any trouble thoughts or situations and then you'll discover the beauties of extasy without the awful setbacks....

And don't get insulted or anything, I mean I love weed and all but It's just a bit too laid back for me I prefer my wonderful picker uppers... ...

 

Maybe you feel so bad afterwards because you are doing to many pills, is like your body's way of telling you are going to burn out.

*Remember to use drugs in a moderate way. Just ask around and you'll see 8, 10, 15 pills are not a normal amount to take on a night.

 

Ok... first of all, supposing you got fairly good rolls, the MDMA (3,4-methylenedioxymethamphetamine) is itself an amphetamine. That means you're gonna have to realize that your gonna be speeded up for a while...

Next, your "emotional issues" are, I believe, simply misanalyized. The comedown sets on fairly quickly and includes paranoia... If your mind is trained(ie pothead) you can easily work you way past that... learning to appreicate the comedown is important to, it is difficult but is theraputic because of the contrasts in your perception of reality. The following days are more intense because any buzz is gone and your thrown back into society with less seratonin and everything in the world is extremely dull and boring, everything lacks defination and substance, any unsolved social(BF,GF, Mom,Pop) or presonal issues will take on new depth... thus becoming more heavy. All of this is part of the MDMA expirence. Like all psychedelics, it serves to teach us something about our own reality, simply by contrast.

Last thursday I attended the Paul McCartny(sp!?) show in paris. I was in the middle of a, 6 pill in 38 hour, E binge (I have 0 tolarance, and had little expirence before)... I was with two of my closest friends and we all double droped two 'white mitsubishi' pills. We had the most fuckin' FANTASTIC!! night of our lives, we had amazing seats and then when we left we continued to party and ate two aditional pills and 3/4 a tequilla bottle before the night was finished, and 4 grams of bud.

This was not an excelent example of responsable drug use... I hope your not taking 10-15 pills a night! ...but anyway this amazing misadvendure had and unbeleavable comedown! During the comedown the trick is to allow yourself to think!... to sit by yourself!... and really just adress each issue that is bothering you, in other words, sort youself out. If you are a cannabis smoker than this just maybe the time to indulge a bit, if not just allow yourself to contemplate all the big questions you may have. Just remember... you can never hide from your own head... 5-HTP... and remember that your reality is a product of brain chemestry, which is all relative, but fragile. My two cents..

-PsDX

 

very good explanation. Iv never done extacy but i do have quite a bit of knowlage in the ways of dealing with the comedown, thru my experiance and i guess u could say addictive use of ritalin

weed helps a hell of alot

i usually find smokin a butt during a comdown will make u feal somwhat ok for a lil while, this can be very releaving during a heavy comdown

i have found that trazadone works extremly well to eliminate a comdown

try to do somthing active, somtimes no matter how shitty you feal it will take your mind off how shitty you feal and you will feal better

reading these damn online forums gives you somthing to do and takes your mind off of it

try writing, usually during a comdown i start thinkin hard about my life and usually come up with some deep shit

basicly any downer will make u feel better and maybe allow you to sleep but as i said trazadone works great, possibly due to the fact it effects serototin levels, correct me if im wrong but i found this works excelent i decided to try it because i read it was used in coke addictions, iv taken doses of ritalin as high as 250mg in a time span of about 18 hours and had virtually no comedown as a result of the trazadone so this is my trusted companion, i will somtimes allow myself to comedown without anything to ease the shittyness because during a comedown you often think very deeply about matters and i beleive it is a different way of seeing your life, you will often see things without the mental blockades that we as humans put up, this will scare some people and will bring you into some fucked up realizations but i have learned alot about myself thru a bad comdown

 

Try Foxy. You feel awesome like Ex plus you have some awesome visuals. And the come down isn't bad at all. Depending on where you live, it could be cheaper too.

 

responsible is binging for a couple of days for your first time? lol

 

Smoking weed from day to day gives you worse after effects than one night on E.

 

well i guess that would depend. cuz i dont know too many potheads who get really depressed and down when they come down... but i'm pretty sure a good % of the people who come down on E do

 

It was my 3rd time, however this one was substantially bigger. I already admited it was overboard and slightly irrisponsible. "This was not an excelent example of responsable drug use... I hope your not taking 10-15 pills a night!"

It's hardly a 'binge'. I can handle psychedelics with out anyone even noticing that im under the influence (high/drunk/fucked). I could have probably handled all the MDMA I ate that night, in one dose.

I am extremly spiritualy actuallized through the great power of MANNA(psilocybe muchrooms). If you find yourself depressed on a comedown then that means you have a lot of existance/spirituality/life questions to answer within yourself. The great questions of existance do not frighten me or depress me (anymore!) because I have an holistic understanding of my existance. I FEAR NO COMEDOWN... unfortunalty you can not effectavly teach this kind of mental preparedness.

MDMA is not like alcohol or cannabis, don't treat it like its just some lame 'party drug'... MDMA is a phenethylamine, an adrenal-based psychedelic. People have too many misconceptions about ecstacy and psychedelics for that matter.

I hate E-tards. People like this give 'drugs' and how they can be used a bad name.

-PsDX

 

oops, i thought it said this was an excellnt example. i also thought you were a different member

 

hehehe... ...cool.

 

I tried it mixed with coke once...it was great...definitely trying it again...

 

Yep. The pills I had were 'White Mitsubishi's'. 3 parts MDMA, 1 part Cocaine.


I've also 'railed' and 'parachuted' these pills on one other occasion. Some friends said they were very sure of the 1 part coke, but my opinion is invalid because I havn't tried it alone.

These were definatly some of the better pills i've eaten... Purple, any of these come your way... we bought our's off an english chap .

-PsDX

 

yeah ive had that happen to me too. I think its dependent on the pills though, I know I felt extra worse after taking the pills with caff in them too.