possession

Discussion in 'Buddhism' started by tiki_god7, Sep 17, 2005.

  1. tiki_god7

    tiki_god7 Member

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    I just returned from the movie 'The exorcism of emily rose' which inspires this question: how does your belief system interpret possessions and exorcisms?
     
  2. Sebbi

    Sebbi Senior Member

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    Buddhism doesn't tend to concern the extraphysical realms very much. They are simply another aspect of the conditioned world.

    I'll ask my aunt and get back to you though.

    Blessings

    Sebbi
     
  3. NikkiLou6387

    NikkiLou6387 ~peace~

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    buddhism is meant to be a philosophy, not a religion, and therefore does not answer many questions about the 'supernatural'. but i also know that 'possession' and exorcism is mainly a western christian idea, specifically catholic, and most other religions dont address this issue since it's somewhat ridiculous
     
  4. tiki_god7

    tiki_god7 Member

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    I've read books that refer to demons and dakini's (fairies) in buddhism though....
     
  5. White Feather

    White Feather Senior Member

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    I see Buddhism being anything but a philosophy. I see it as being existential, that one has to try to find answers for oneself, not accept ready made answers, such as philosophy or organised religion provides. If one is to see how one's own mind works why would one want to program it with labels of one's own beliefs?

    As far as exorcisms and spirits go perhaps the Buddhist mind sees all manifestations as of the mind so is less likely to be influenced by outside forces? I'm sure (?) that spirits do exist in the Buddhist world but the Buddhist has a different inner anchor so he may be more prone to question his own feelings and mind rather than listen to evil voices.
     
  6. NikkiLou6387

    NikkiLou6387 ~peace~

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    philosophy doesn't give you answers it teaches you to think for yourself. the great chinese philosopher confucius would not allow you to learn with him you did not think for yourself. he once said something to the effect of "i will give you one corner, but if you cannot complete the square for yourself, you do not belong here" besides, if buddhism isnt a philosophy (which it is for me) or a religion (which it is for my japanese friends) then what is it?
     
  7. Psychedelic Moss

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    possessions can be interpretted as manifestations of a single or collective mind, past and present lives included.
     
  8. NikkiLou6387

    NikkiLou6387 ~peace~

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    wow, that's a really cool picture
     
  9. White Feather

    White Feather Senior Member

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    It all depends on what you consider religion. There is a difference between religion and religioness. Are you interested in studying the scriptures and ritual or in meditation? Is your Buddhism existential like Zen?

    But as it pertains to posession, since some Buddhists believe in a Paradise and a hell, and the supernatural, they probably believe in possession, like:


    http://www.ywamthai.org/office/buddhism.htm


    http://www.himalayan-mercantile.com/rituals/BookSpirPo-Dtl.html (a book on possession)


    http://ccbs.ntu.edu.tw/FULLTEXT/JR-ADM/salgado.htm

    http://www.hinduismtoday.com/archives/2001/7-8/50-52_dhamis.shtml

    http://www.journeysmyanmar.com/nat_workship.htm

    http://countrystudies.us/south-korea/43.htm

    http://www.sacred-texts.com/etc/omw/omw68.htm (the story of Mara)

    http://www.tbsn.org/english2/article.php?id=1107

    http://www.capital.net/com/phuston/Taiwanmediums.html

    I'm sure there's many more links available.
     
  10. NikkiLou6387

    NikkiLou6387 ~peace~

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    i see. i guess it doesn't apply to me then because i don't believe in a heaven or a hell. but it would make sense for people who do hold those beliefs. you're quite knowledgable
     
  11. White Feather

    White Feather Senior Member

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    Not at all - I just googled. My own feelsings I haven't really exposed. They're more of a Christian bent. So basically I do believe in ghosts, spirits, angels, demons, etc. When it comes to Buddhism there is enough diversity that it encompases many societies, so you have Japanese, Thai, Chinese, et. al., type of demons and spirit possession. One book I read had a meditator presented by a demon who turned into a cowardly spirit because the meditator "refused" to believe i what he was seeing.

    It is hard to speak about possession to people who have never experienced such phenomena (I have) and who just refuse to believe because that may mean that there is a "God". My own existential experience just shows them for what they are and so I tend to chuckle at their naivete. But I can tell you stories that would put the hairs on the back of your head on end... Possession? I've been possessed, but not to the dramatic affect as are in the movies.

    A good movie to rent, for Japanese style Ghost stories, is "The Two Sisters." "The Grudge" was a poor remake of Ju-On. It's interesting to see superstition in movies where Buddhism is espoused. I'm still seeking "The 5 Ghosts" by Jackie Chan.

    btw, telling a Buddhist that he is knowledgeable may be considered derogatory. :D We're supposed to fore go all knowledge that isn't existential.
     
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