Which element?

Discussion in 'Philosophy and Religion' started by Art Delfo, Sep 17, 2005.

  1. Art Delfo

    Art Delfo It is dark

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    In the days of greek philospohy an arguement was what what was the main element

    earth
    wind
    fire
    water

    today we know that these are not elements at all but whatever

    so what do you think which is the main element

    I say water.
     
  2. Hikaru Zero

    Hikaru Zero Sylvan Paladin

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    Firstly, there are only four elements ... wind and air are the same domain.

    Secondly, the point of the four elements was that none of them was more dominant than the rest.
     
  3. MamaTheLama

    MamaTheLama Too much coffee

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    I'd go with air...since it probably takes up more space than anything else.
     
  4. StonerBill

    StonerBill Learn

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    with todays knowlege that mass can be equated to energy, perhaps fire would be considered the main one.

    really what they had was solid, liquid, gas, and energy.
     
  5. StonerBill

    StonerBill Learn

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    sorry i change that, i chose the 5th element, love

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  6. forest_pixie84

    forest_pixie84 Senior Member

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    Air, you need to breathe before you can even get to the others.
     
  7. MamaTheLama

    MamaTheLama Too much coffee

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    I pick the 6th element....monnnneeeyyyyyy
    *evil laugh*
     
  8. forest_pixie84

    forest_pixie84 Senior Member

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    more like the 666th element...i just got chills, how ever did you get onto the hip forums?
     
  9. MamaTheLama

    MamaTheLama Too much coffee

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    Thru the computer that I paid for.
     
  10. Burbot

    Burbot Dig my burdei

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    none, everything [with the exception of the elements themselves] relies on more than one element to exist

    and yes, Hikaru is correct, there are only 4 elements
     
  11. BlackBillBlake

    BlackBillBlake resigned HipForums Supporter

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    A lot of occultists say there are five - ether being the 5th.
     
  12. TrippinBTM

    TrippinBTM Ramblin' Man

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    ^i was just about to point that out.

    Anyways, yeah, no one element was the superior one, they were all equal.

    Also interesting is the idea of humors as far as greek medicine goes. I wonder if that is still valid. It sounds a bit like Ayurvedic ideas I've read.
     
  13. steffan

    steffan puffin

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    come on people, long before the greeks they knew that there are three elements
    earth representing all things solid
    wind representing all gasses
    fire representing energy, and since all things are realy energy it is the main one
    and if dark mater is a real thing it could be a forth,
    water is oxegen and hydrogen, they knew this because they boiled it away
     
  14. Hikaru Zero

    Hikaru Zero Sylvan Paladin

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    Ether ... are you referring to a wind domain, or a "transcendent" or even spiritual domain?

    Regardless, even if you do believe in a transcendent elemental domain, this domain is not actually an element, it's transcendent because it stands due to the other four elements coexisting in balance. That's how I've heard it anyway.
     
  15. Burbot

    Burbot Dig my burdei

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    you need to zap water with electricity to seperate it...boiling will only make it water vapour
     
  16. Colours

    Colours Senior Member

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    It was water. they believed water could be frozen to make any solid.
     
  17. steffan

    steffan puffin

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    i sappose it comes down to your definition of 'element'

    some of the smartest people who ever lived did so thousands of years ago, they understood lot more than we give them credit for

    check it out,.. remmember the game , one of these things is not like he others.
    earth wind fire water
    which would you choose?
     
  18. Colours

    Colours Senior Member

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  19. StonerBill

    StonerBill Learn

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    captain planet
     
  20. TrippinBTM

    TrippinBTM Ramblin' Man

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    ^haha, hell yeah. That kid who had the "heart" power really got screwed, didn't he?
     
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