I'm beginning to question whether or not demacracy is actually a good idea. Yeah sure it gives the power to the people and lets them chose (to some extent) But what happens when the people are morons? I mean bush stole the last election, didn't even have the majority of the votes and he gets 4 years and we all know how that went....but then we voted him back!!! what the hell is that?? a good representation of the majority
Democracy isn't a joke, its probably the best kind of government when concerning everyone, but the political system we have in America is not a democracy. The government says it is, but when do governments and politicians tell the truth?
so you think if 51 percent of the people of a society have the brain of a cabbage and 49 percent mahatma ghandi's or buddha's then the brain dead cabbage people shold still get their choice?
My point of view: Democracy (ie it's original meaning, people's rule) is a fundamentally good idea. Bourgeois democracy (as seen in the US) does not work. The power is not in the hands of the people, but in the elite. "There are those (some of them our friends) who believe that you cannot have a democracy unless there is a situation where every five years, and for five seconds in those five years, a people are allowed to put an ‘X’ next to some candidate’s name, and for those five seconds in those five years they become democrats, and for the remainder of the time, four years and 364 days, they return to being non-people without the right to say anything to their government, without any right to be involved in running the country" - Maurice Bishop
democracy -should mean the most amount of good for the most amount of people. instead it's like 2 wolve's an a lamb deciding what to have for lunch...
some guy said something like "it can only be called a democracy if people are willing to stand up for what they believe in" -some guy, I lost the quote.
Democracy ends up as mob rule - or, when socialists convince enough people that switching to "Geico" means they get stuff for free with the credit card bills going to someone else, descends into socialism. That's why America, being a Republic with a Constitution, is a good idea.
Values of free, functioning democracies include not only representation of majority, but also protection of minority. Although your head of state has different views than you, your most fundemental, basic rights are still protected. It could be much worse.
so, basically, what the original post is saying is that democracy is good when it agrees with HIS purposes, but not when it agrees with OTHER people's purposes....at that time we should adopt HIS politics and then enforce a dictatorship that is "more beneficial to the people." gotta take the bad with the good, man.
hahano you guys are totally misreading this....lets say germany in the 1930's had the democratic government like we have today....Hitler is running for president expressing the views that he is now popular for. He ends up getting 5000 more votes then his opponent and wins the election named president of germany. thats all fair because the majority voted him right? I'm not saying this just because I disagree with our political system (I disagree with any political system) all I'm saying is what happens whent he general public are compolete fucking morons that they vote a complete fucking moron into office that is capable of doing no good at all....is this right?? I mean yes democracy has prevailed and yes the votes all counted and yes the majority won as should be the case in a democracy buyt what if the majority is not capable of picking a candidate fit to runa country? I think I'm taking crazy pills or something here!!!
A pure democracy in which the majority rules in all cases without question is a disaster and can in no way be called just. After all, the most oppresive of tyrannies are derived from the most forgiving of democracies. This is why American philosophers such as Jefferson attempted to sculp the US in a way that would only allow the majority to rule when they did so in a just, fair, and realistic manner. If the majority in the US ruled in every case, I am confident that segregation, and possibly even slavery, would still exist here. However, the US isn't actually a democracy; it's an oligarchic republic. So I guess this response was somewhat pointless. ()
yeh, if people dont control the means of production how is it democracy? It's economic totalitarianism.
