Nature and Math.

Discussion in 'Philosophy and Religion' started by Inquiring-Mind, Sep 17, 2005.

  1. Inquiring-Mind

    Inquiring-Mind Senior Member

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    Nature operates with in the set boundaries of mathematics. No changes take place that defy mathematics, else then the big bang.


    How true is this?
     
  2. MamaTheLama

    MamaTheLama Too much coffee

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    Math is but another language that describes life.
     
  3. Mr MiGu

    Mr MiGu King of the Zombies

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    you assume math has boundaries
     
  4. Inquiring-Mind

    Inquiring-Mind Senior Member

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    Does it not? Math follows formal rules. Fixed logic 1 plus 1 will always equal two 2 because that is how math is structured.
     
  5. Inquiring-Mind

    Inquiring-Mind Senior Member

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    I am not sure what you are trying to say.
     
  6. Mr MiGu

    Mr MiGu King of the Zombies

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    i think youre confusing rules and boundaries
     
  7. Inquiring-Mind

    Inquiring-Mind Senior Member

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    Let me get this are you saying math does not have boundaries?
     
  8. Mr MiGu

    Mr MiGu King of the Zombies

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    i guess thats not entirely true. if your working with finite number sets then there are definately boundaries, but these are all theoretical. Anything in nature will be working with real numbers, which is an infinite set, hence no boundaries.
     
  9. Inquiring-Mind

    Inquiring-Mind Senior Member

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    Therefore nature has no boundaries but math does?


    I say math does have boundaries
     
  10. StonerBill

    StonerBill Learn

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    boundries of function, not of value
     
  11. MamaTheLama

    MamaTheLama Too much coffee

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    Take a few college math courses...you'll figure it out.
     
  12. zeljko-h

    zeljko-h Member

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    not in all branches of math 1+1 is 2. you are talking about euclides' mathemathic only.
     
  13. hippypaul

    hippypaul Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    but what about

    Gödel showed that for any formal axiomatic system, there is always a statement about natural numbers which is true, but which cannot be proven in the system. In other words, mathematics will always have a little fuzziness around the edges: it will never be the rigorous unshakable system that mathematicians dreamed of for millennia.

    hummmmm
     
  14. katina

    katina Member

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    You can find math everywhere in nature but, it is stupid to look for it all the time. There are much more important things to search in life and nature than math. You can see the world through numbers, but it is better to see it through what life is really for.
     
  15. TrippinBTM

    TrippinBTM Ramblin' Man

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    it is false.

    nature operates as nature operates, and mathematics is an invented human language that seems to describe these operations reasonably precisely.
     
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