Silver Ring?

Discussion in 'Love and Sex' started by Snowdrop, Jul 4, 2004.

  1. Snowdrop

    Snowdrop Member

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    Fellow creatures

    silver ring?

    http://www.silverringthing.com/index.html

    1. oh yes! protect teenagers from STDs (by protecting them from sex education and condoms), unwanted pregnancies (ditto) and most of all having a good time.

    2. this is another load of rubbish from the bible belt.

    3. I would be well up for it except as a non christian, I cannot support this blatantly sectarian Christian initiative.

    4. anything that got 700 000 USD of federal funding from that twit in the whitehouse is a touch dubious. nice little hole in the wall between church and state.

    5. Nice idea but counter productive in practice. Like it or not teenagers will shag. They are less likely to do so given proper sex education and access to family planning. Look at the Netherlands and the rest of Europe. It is amerika that leads the advanced world in teenage pregnancies, STDs and loopy biblical fundamentalist Christianity.

    6. No thanks! What other people do in bed, or fail to do in bed is none of my business, personally i consider drinking smoking and fornication to be the hight of piety. Hallelujah! Pass the sliver condoms!

    7. who cares

    8. other

    Perhaps I am too fascinated by this racket, maybe it would be wiser to deny them the oxygen of publicity and all that.

    Are you dudes over in Amerika keeping it quiet or is it about as successful there as here in old england.

    Snowdrop
     
  2. Meeshka Chaukinov

    Meeshka Chaukinov Senior Member

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    oh my god....that's very pathetic indeed...and i don't want any group to come to my city on August 14th. read my location...read the website. scary.

    edit: ahh, theycome here four times a year!
     
  3. Snowdrop

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    hi m.

    according to their website they made it to surrey and birmingham country. wonder if the manchester gig happened. earlier on their website there was talk of Leeds, but so far as I know they missed out yorkshire.

    we shall see.

    now I am not saying that it was concious policy to export religious loons from old england to amerika from 1660 onwards.....

    Snowdrop
     
  4. Unkle_John

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    by looking at some of the girls in the photo albums, I'll make them pawn that ring.

    but all-in-all it's all BS x-tian stuff. Hey that's cool if you have a belief, but some of us are fine the way we are.
     
  5. dj_reegz

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    scary.
    bloody bush anyway
     
  6. soulrebel51

    soulrebel51 i's a folkie.

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    i didnt really read through the site can anyone tell me whats it about?
     
  7. crummyrummy

    crummyrummy Brew Your Own Beer Lifetime Supporter

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    They are claiming Giant lizards will steal teenagers anal virginity unless the wear these silver rings. I think it would work.
     
  8. beatlerific

    beatlerific not like other girls

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    Q.What about kids who are already sexually active?A.We address this question in the Second Virginity message which speaks directly to the issues and problems that sexually active students have encountered. We recognize the fact that many students who attend the SRT are, or have been, sexually active and they need to know if it is possible to begin again. The answer is YES YOU CAN START OVER and, in fact, for this reason many students attend our program.



    haha you can start over. i've heard of born again christians, but born again virgins? gah, how lame people are these days.

    and to answer this question the right way...
    Q.What about kids who are already sexually active?
    A. They are making sweet, sweet love and enjoying it thoroughly. However, this is not for everyone.
     
  9. NaeNae

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    i say the silver ring thing is a good idea. for those that definetely dont want to have sex before marriage, it will help them to 'stay strong' and perhaps not feel so isolated for they refrain from sexual activity. i dont know why everyone is so quick to slag it off. if it prevents early sexual activity (lets face it, you often regret certain encounters, i know i do) then surely that is a good thing. i have friends that were sexually active from as young as 12 and now they realise they certainly were not old enough to make that step. they regret it terribly. if TSRT prevents them from having sex young (its likely for some that they get older and decide not to wait anymore), or before marriage, then i welcome it with open arms. early promiscuity and early sexual encounters can do a lot of damage to a person, i for one had to learn that the hard way.
     
  10. NaeNae

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    then again reading here http://www.silverringthing.com/deb25.html seems to me like they are using scare tactics. that is not how they came across in the videos we had to watch in a religious studies class! i guess all organisations use emotive persuasive techniques though, but the things about condoms.... she must have been using them incorrectly but oh no, it would never state that would it.
     
  11. enigma_rising

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    srt is a fine idea in principal, ie, save yourself for your husband/wife, i think thats beautful, if not a little idealistic, though it will provide support for those who really want to wait it also denies teenagers information which can protect them. in this day and age in most developed countries there is no need for a person to catch an sti or get pregnant if they dont want to be, given the right education and support. its far more damaging to a 15 yr old girl to be kept in the dark, have sex and end up pregnant and be forced to bear a child she cant provide for and doesnt want because her family would prevent abortion for example, than it is to educate her so she does what she will probably do anyway if she is going to safely and responsibly. denying young people the info they need is criminal in my opinion and no-one with kids wellbeing at heart would say otherwise.

    i hate it when religion is used in this way, gr. sorry, rant over.xxx
     
  12. Snowdrop

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    enigma rising writes:-

    > srt is a fine idea in principal, ie, save yourself for your husband/wife, i think thats beautful, if not a little idealistic,

    er well I don't think this is at all idealistic. romantic rubbish yes. Don't get me wrong, if someone wants to "save yourself" for husband wife, likesay, what people do in bed, within reason, who cares, but don't do it in the street where it might frighten the horses.

    I have a bit more problem with the idea of saving self for future husband/wife unknown. Again, if this is something that someone truely wants, fine.

    what gets me however is the notion that some sort of pressure should be brought to bear on people to "save themselves" for future husband wife. How ridiculous. How can my future husband/wife own me from the day I am born!

    back to basics. who owns my body? Who decides who I may share it with? Who decides how much of it I may share? Rhetorical questions of course.

    Holding up monogamy as an ideal leaves me foaming at the mouth!

    > though it will provide support for those who really want to wait

    yup! this should be supported. I am all in favour of a loud and clear message to teenagers and everyone else that sex is not compulsory. but likesay the silver ringpiece message of "work, family, obey, do it in the missionary position (when you are married and don't enjoy it, after all joy is the work of the devil)" makes me vomit!

    > it also denies teenagers information which can protect them. in this day and age in most developed countries there is no need for a person to catch an sti or get pregnant if they dont want to be, given the right education and support. its far more damaging to a 15 yr old girl to be kept in the dark, have sex and end up pregnant and be forced to bear a child she cant provide for and doesnt want because her family would prevent abortion for example, than it is to educate her so she does what she will probably do anyway if she is going to safely and responsibly. denying young people the info they need is criminal in my opinion and no-one with kids wellbeing at heart would say otherwise.

    here here!

    > i hate it when religion is used in this way,

    absolutely! beware of false preachers!

    love and liberation

    bluebell
     
  13. xthevalkyriex

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    Abstinence works.

    Abstinence-only sex education doesn't.

    This country is so backwards when it comes to sex and sex education. This is why we have college-aged women who still think they can't get pregnant the first time they have sex, or people who confuse "vulva" with "vagina", or men who think the pill prevents STDs. It's a damn shame.
     
  14. Squiffy

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    People on the SRT who believe abstinence is better need to task themselves one thing.

    How many people do they know who had sex, decided it wasn't pleasant and stopped doing it?

    So why are they denying themselves such pleasure?
     
  15. Pablo

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    as always the fundimentalists forget their own point, and ask people to be like robots. Young people will have sex. They could spend that money educating young people about the risks realistically and contraception. So they could choose for themselfs, but no they come up with a line of crappy bands and badly acted horror stories about sex. Most of the people i know who sleep around unprotected with lots of people, were not raised in permissive environments, there a kid learns about the truth about sex, they were raised in restrictive ienvironments, kept from knowledge as if it will stop them from having sex, and this just makes it more misterious and thus more apealing to them, and leaves them uneduacated on the issue. The idea that not teaching kids about sex will keep them from doing it is ludicris. Were animals, is there a single animal on the planet that reproduces sexualy that has to be taught how by anyone? for that matter there are none that can be taught not to without mentally damaging them, but they can be taught to do it more safely, and thats what our culture needs, to be open about it, stop always hiding it or glamorizing it, confusing the hell out of people whove never done it. Make it a little clearer what it actually is. All i remember seeing of sex before i did it was stuff at school and stuff saying its bad and to abstain, and pornagraphic stuff making it look like there was nothing to it but fun, and showing it as a lot diferent than it ever could be in reality in many other ways as well.

    and on a side note, judging by looks, i dont think anyone in those pictures on their site is gonna have to try very hard to abstain, unless they go to prison.
     

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