to what extent is mind a part of our body?

anybody thought of dualism of mind (soul) and body (matter) ?

or do you incline to the materialistic point of view and believe any thinking and feeling is happening due to chemical processes in our brain?

can our mind outlive our body?

 

I am of the view that our mind (soul) is a product of our body (God). God does act in certain specific ways physically- which is why food & drugs effect us the way they do...

 

My idea is that there are three parts that make up a human being. Body, soul, and spirit. The spirit being the immortal aspect that will continue to live on and reincarnate or stay in the afterlife. The mind and the spirit are the same. When you strengthen your mind you strengthen your spirit.

 

The brain cannot outlive the body...but the intelligence manifested by that mind is an energy construct that can outlast the physical body.....but that energy must be thoroughly developed to be able to endure.....

 

you(us all) are inside your mind which gives you(us all) information which is picked up by the body.

 

I think we are beyond the mind, and this mind is a part of our created life on earth in the physical realm, attached to the ego. Wholly, we are beyond the seperated mind.

 

What about the heart? It is the heart chakra where the dreams and desires of soul are annouced and made clear. So, open your heart and spin the chakra/holograph and you shall find it to be the perfect conduit for communications with your Soul, Oversoul and Source.

Namaste all
Francine

 

When people die, when their bodies stop operating the brain is usually active for 10 seconds or so before it goes out. Therefore, the brain depends on the body to feed it and the body depends on the brain for instructions.

 

if we look at the mind and the body a 2 seporate things we can get lost. our mind uses our body to influence this physical reality. and our body teaches our mind. in this level of understanding reality that we wake up in every day we need our body or our minds would be lost. and they would not learn new things and thus be dead. Our bodys need our minds or else they would be lost and just another part in the machine. so i think to view them as seporate would be silly fr me

thats not to say that we cant reach seporation through "dreaming" or medatation

 

well Im not sure myself what to believe. Our brain seems to be responsible of every aspect of thinking,(not incl. as known other inevitable tasks), which involves not only sense perceptions and explanations + memory + learning+ emotion + higher order thinking + sleeping... It seems to be responsible for our personality. On the other hand, although many clues lead that way, it is uncertain to say where all of it is located and how does it emerge.
It is also hard to say to what extent is everyone similar, there seems to be a lot of inner life going on in each other's head, imagination, emotion, perception, understanding.. And what is responsible for it, spirit or the mind, or the body?
I'm not sure either if hard does anything else at all but circulates our blood around
so the question still reminds open for me...
(but I would rather believe something lasts forever)

 

can our mind outlive our body?
It does
do you incline to the materialistic point of view and believe any thinking and feeling is happening due to chemical processes in our brain
I believe that chemicals open neural pathways that allow perception to be heightened by disassociating from the physicality of being and connectiong with the spiritual;ity of being. Try reading Terence McKenna's books.
anybody thought of dualism of mind (soul) and body (matter) ?
Yep, all the time, But there is no "duality" as such, because the physical and the spiritual integrate in the same way that E=MC2, ie matter is composed of energy, and energy is convertible into matter. No conflict in that, just integration/disintegration ~ what the Hindu god Shiva represents....life and death, appearance and disappearance, integration and disintegration.
I find it best to always keep in mind that we have a viewpoint of "life" which is confined by the parameters and perspective of where we are now. Like if you stand at the bottom of a cliff and look up, you can't see the very top but think that you can. It is only when you are at the very top that you can see clearly both where you are and where you were. "Here and There" are relative to where you ARE. That's what relativity is, and relativity appears to be dualistic when in fact it is simply a perspective of where you are viewing from.

 

MellowMagician, your sig is freakin hilarious!

 

to exactly the same extent that the software that runs on our computers is a part of their hardware. it isn't exactly. but it is where and how and with what our awairness interfaces with it. but the software that runs on your computer isn't you, the 'end user' either. in the mind/brain context that is your awairness which is the 'end user' and neither mind nor brain.

mind does not equal soul. awairness equals soul. mind running on brain interfaces awairness/soul to the mind/brain organic life form.

so it is not mind but awairness, bereft of mind and memory, taking with it only our intrinsic preferences by which awirness defines itself, that is alone independent of the brain and it's tangable organic life.

it is for this reason that what we know of previous lives is limited to what can be implied from the preferences of our nontangable awairnessess.

preferences which are refined and educated through the mindfullness with which we live

 

if you procreate, does your body not live on? if you create art, does not a part of your mind/soul live on? where do you draw the line for your body? is your saliva a part of your body? what about a hair? what about the oil that would remain after billions of years of your body decaying? is that your body? and your mind, is that your personality? your soul? or your central processing unit? you ever notice that when you dream there are many people you know in it? are they still those people? or are they you?

i once, in a dream, asked a friend if he was real or if he was just a product of my mind, and he looked at me like he was thinking about it, and then said, kinda both...

 

Your body keeps your brain safe, your brain runs your body. Your cells each ahve mini-brains. You have muscle memory. Neuropathways connect and send messages to receptors. If these are blocked you can get major malfunctions phsyically. IE what happens when you dislocate a kneecap. lol I know I did it twice.

Your mind or train of thought definately I think flows from the outside and inside and can go any direction. It flows like a river and all that shit. Seriously.

The soul hasn't been proved yet, but I kinda think its a super concious intelligence being amde of light waves, and particles. Connected to a cosmic grid made of the same similar substance. Walking through a matrix of these cosmic grids. This animates the body, and justifies the mind, also harnessing it from all directions inside and out. Then alchemizing it into everything we know.

 

ive yet to experience or whitness any type of thought that defies the physical contstraints of the brain, and thus, it have no rational choice but to say that i believe the mind is a physical process.

maybe the spirits have just not touched me with whatever magical feeling or process it is that all you metaphysic believers have experienced which makes you think otherwise

 

Course it is.

just feeds off the inside and outside

 

Actually electrical energy contiues to manifest in the brain for up to several hours after death...atleast until the undertaker pumps it full of formaldihyde (major SP). The levels of activity are nothing like conscous levels of electrical activity but they still persist...I know, I have seen it. I wonder how many after death experiencs are cut short by the undertaker.

 

awairness is not limited to thought and mind.

only awairness is true self.

it is true there is nothing tangable without these limitations.
awairness/soul is not however, in any way tangable.

nothing has to be tangable to exist.
this is only what we are used to thinking in terms of.

=^^=
.../\...

 

We can open up a brain and not see the mind.
likewise there would be nothing that we could call a soul.
Could it work like this - The brain, being responsible for interpreting the external world, is triggered by both sensory events, and events within the brain. Each response to stimuli must also make sense to the brain so we analyse the stimulus and our response -
what we call thinking is merely a different, but related, causal chain to that which is the original stimuli.
There is only the brain and its processes - no mind - no soul
what we call "mind" or "soul" is merely a set of processes the brain performs to aid our existence and survival